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Pres. Candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders [Markham Robinson] Sue Obtain Obama Citizenship Proof
Post Chronicle ^ | Nov 17, 2008

Posted on 11/17/2008 12:45:33 PM PST by Red Steel

Presidential candidate

Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama's California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.

In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, "I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; bc; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; keyes; lawsuit; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; whenobamaspeakstruth; whenwillthisdie
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To: Krodg

It probably says father unknown.


81 posted on 11/17/2008 1:59:23 PM PST by Marinefamilyx3
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To: marshmallow
If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Yep, and I think that is exactly what happened.

82 posted on 11/17/2008 2:01:59 PM PST by Krodg
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To: seanrobins
If you don't, then too bad for you. I have checked for CPA licenses, and contractor licenses. I've not needed an attorney to date. I don't go to the doctor often, but their licenses are usually on the wall where they practice. As are CPA licenses. A simple call to check can be done.

Perhaps I should have qualified that statement. I meant hire as from a management standpoint. If the job has certain requirements, and you fail to produce the documents that say you do meet the requirements, why should I hire you?

I had to prove I was a citizen, had no criminal record - and got fingerprinted with a background investigation, paid my taxes, had a degree in field of expertise for which I was hired. This was all for a $15.00/hour job when I started.

Prior to that, I was in the Air Force and had a full on security background check for the job I was hired to do. I was subject to more scrutiny at age 18 than Obama been his entire life, and for a job considerably less important than President of the United States.

Again, I ask the most basic of questions. Why? Why lawyer up when you can pony up?

83 posted on 11/17/2008 2:03:31 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: TruthCanHurt
You should stop being so ignorant and read the following... Details on case in Hawaii that goes trial tomorrow.

Why would I want to read some whacko's blog? Isn't that how this whole thing started? In the blogosphere? If I remember rightly, World Nut Daily was one of the first to pick this thing up and run with it. That tells me plenty.

No, I'm not a leftist. Just somebody whose been around FR way too long. I've see it all. Clinton's illegitimate lovechild, Vince Foster, Y2K, etc etc. I've seen hundreds of FR conspiracy theories. They're usually baloney.

There's some nice, down-to-earth, rational people on this site but there's also a sizable portion of paranoid conspiracy nuts.

84 posted on 11/17/2008 2:03:35 PM PST by marshmallow (USA: Bailout Nation)
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To: seanrobins
I didn’t say contractor..... I said accountant, plumber, lawyer, doctor.....

A plumber, by definition, is a contractor, in the manner you described.

85 posted on 11/17/2008 2:05:32 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I hope you don’t mind, but I stole your wonderfully apt sentence for my tagline. With attribution, of course.


86 posted on 11/17/2008 2:06:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Why lawyer up when you can pony up?" - IYAS9YAS)
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To: Free America52

You are a bit new here to be tossing around that kind of BS.


87 posted on 11/17/2008 2:07:19 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: marshmallow

what was the freerepublic y2k conspiracy?

also give credit to stuff that turned out to be true.. like forged documents on the dan rather story... john edwards love child.. etc..


88 posted on 11/17/2008 2:08:37 PM PST by outlawjake
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To: Marinefamilyx3
It probably says father unknown.

What would that mean, other that he was a punishment that should have been aborted?

89 posted on 11/17/2008 2:09:01 PM PST by Krodg
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To: seanrobins

“That Alan Koo-Koo-Keyes would jump into this silly soup at this late date is further evidence of his utter irrelevance.

What a dope...”

Dr. Keyes is the only one with standing willing to do what must be done. Many of us support his effort to settle this matter once and for all. What’s Koo KOO is Hussein’s stonewalling on providing the necessary documents to prove himself eligible to be POTUS.

A couple of years ago I forgot to renew my DL. This error was discovered when I was caught in a roadblock. In order to renew my DL, I had to provide a certified copy of my ORIGNAL birth certificate signed and sealed along with other particulars regarding my residency and citizenship. Then I had to appear in court to prove I had renewed my DL.
All this for a drivers license.

By your manner here, it seems are you are satisfied with what by all appearances may be a bogus birth certificate. He’s not even trying to renew his lapsed DL. He’s the President elect who refuses to release the original certificate to prove he is qualified as a natural born citizen to be POTUS.

Hussein could stop all this fuss with a snap of his fingers. Since you seem to be knowlegeable about most everytning Hussein, perhaps you can tell us why he refuses?

I will hold my breath to await your answer./s


90 posted on 11/17/2008 2:11:40 PM PST by takenoprisoner (No more rappers!)
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To: marshmallow

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud.


That is exactly the case.


91 posted on 11/17/2008 2:12:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Procyon
What presidential candidate in history has had to provide proof of "natural-born citizenship?"

Most recently, John McCain. So much for that gambit.

92 posted on 11/17/2008 2:12:42 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: jcsjcm

A doctor can make life or death decisions that can affect only a few dozen or a few hundred people. A president can make life or death decisions that can affect millions or even billions of people. Yet, it’s easier to find out about the qualifications of a doctor than a candidate for president. Yes, a legitimate doctor is and should be proud of his diplomas. Chairman Obama should be too, but he has most of his records locked down. If he’s lying about something, even something that is fairly trivial, I want to know.

Obama’s behavior is very suspicious, and I’m not a tin foil hatter, by any stretch.


93 posted on 11/17/2008 2:13:19 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: EternalVigilance
I hope you don’t mind, but I stole your wonderfully apt sentence for my tagline. With attribution, of course.

Wow, I'm famous! LOL.

94 posted on 11/17/2008 2:13:35 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: takenoprisoner

Quote” Hussein could stop all this fuss with a snap of his fingers. Since you seem to be knowlegeable about most everytning Hussein, perhaps you can tell us why he refuses?”

Exactly!

This is why I am so upset about this whole mess. Just shut us up and show the original long form birth certificate. I’ve ordered plenty of these in my life time for myself and my kids. So many instances require this and to be the President this is absolutely required. Just provide it to the courts. Really, what is the problem supporters of Obama - you should be insisting too!


95 posted on 11/17/2008 2:15:45 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: marshmallow

The Dept. of Hawaiian Home Lands mentions both documents as follows:

“DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Imagine that: The Department of Hawaiian Homelands requires additional verification for a COLB, but no agency or branch of the US Government has authority or responsibility to verify the computer-generated certification of birth of a candidate for the highest office in the land.

P.S. The reason the DHHL requires “further certification” is that birth certificates can be amended, sealed and re-issued under many circumstances, and the COLB does not always represent the facts on the original certificate.

The abstract which is a forgery does not say where he was born as does the original COLB which specifies FOREIGN COUNTRY. This is not proof. Get the facts correct. The only thing that proves he was born in this country would be the ORIGINAL COLB which has been SEALED by Hawaii’s governor after Obamas visit.


96 posted on 11/17/2008 2:15:48 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: Impy
Keyes let himself be used as a tool to elect Obama in the first place.

I hadn't heard about this. What did Keyes do to help Obama get elected?
97 posted on 11/17/2008 2:17:05 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: TruthCanHurt
Imagine that: ...no agency or branch of the US Government has authority or responsibility to verify the computer-generated certification of birth of a candidate for the highest office in the land.

If there was ever a good reason to have courts, this would be one.

98 posted on 11/17/2008 2:18:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Why lawyer up when you can pony up?" - IYAS9YAS)
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To: Gemsbok

This suit has legs because the plantiffs have standing.

Phillip Berg and Andy Martin are indeed citizens. But this is a representative republic and Berg/Martin do not vote directly for the POTUS.

In this suit there is both a competing candidate (Keyes/Drake) and a Certified elector (Robinson) making the petition.

Secondly, unlike the Berg suit, this one only seeks proof of citizenship and not a laundry list of other documents that are only remotely related to the issue of “natural born citizen”. Thus the Obama defense would have a tough time attempting to claim that the lawsuit only seeks to embarass him, as it has with the Berg case.


99 posted on 11/17/2008 2:18:47 PM PST by kidd
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To: seanrobins
its a shame, but its wasting time and energy on nonesense like this, rather than trying to regain conservative control over the GOP, that has gotten us where we are today. The election’s over already.... We need to start “debrieding” the RINO’s and the so0called “centrists” and “moderates” from the party, and refocus on real conservatism, for the first time in eight or twn years. That’s the way to beat Bambi.

Ahhh -- spoken like a true Obamabot and his gathering herd of RINOs. The centrists and moderates are the ones running from this issue as fast as their lumbering hooves can carry them. It is exposing them for who they really are and driving them into obscurity and irrelevance.

The Conservative movement is alive and well in the hearts of those who value their Constitution enough to pursue this issue to its legitimate conclusion.

100 posted on 11/17/2008 2:20:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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