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To: abb

No. I have no problem with giving SS to those who truly need help- REALLY need help. It is unfortunate that our culture has encouraged a generation of children only too happy to dump their parents on the taxpayer. I, for one, don’t want to see Granny eating dog food (although, have you checked the price of THAT lately?).

My problem is this: Retirees with separate incomes from unions, 401Ks, other retirement savings, etc, paid off homes or some other way to boost their personal incomes, leaving SS as a means to pay their greens fees- THEY don’t need it. And there are far more of THOSE than “grannys-in-the-walk-up”. Seniors are the most invested and, arguably, the wealthiest population group. Most of them don’t NEED SS, yet all will tell you how entitled they are TO it.

No one is entitled to welfare of ANY type, no one is entitled to the product of another’s labor. Period.


73 posted on 11/20/2008 9:16:30 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: 13Sisters76
No one is entitled to welfare of ANY type, no one is entitled to the product of another’s labor. Period.

Which, of course, is the basic argument against taxes of any type.

74 posted on 11/21/2008 2:23:55 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: 13Sisters76
No one is entitled to welfare of ANY type,

Excuse me...SS retirement benefits ARE NOT welfare. I have worked all my life (actually since I was 7) and paid in (since I was 15, I lied about my age to get the job as I was homeless), I should be able reap the rewards of MY OWN labor.

no one is entitled to the product of another’s labor. Period.

Make up your mind...you are contradicting yourself. Means testing is exactly that, providing others that didn't bother to work or plan ahead with the fruits of MY labor because you think I don't deserve it because I worked hard and saved for retirement. You can't call yourself a conservative if you truly believe what you do.

77 posted on 11/21/2008 9:01:21 AM PST by ravingnutter
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