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GINA KOLATA usually writes better than this. I'll have to read the original article.

The Natural History of Invasive Breast Cancers Detected by Screening Mammography It's a FReebie.

Incidence refers to the rate that is annual numbers of new patients with a particular diagnosis.

Prevalence rate refers to the numbers in the whole population at any time with a particular diagnosis.

1 posted on 11/25/2008 1:53:41 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Once they diagnose it, you’re done for.


2 posted on 11/25/2008 2:11:46 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("A laurel, and hearty handshake ....")
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To: neverdem

I have often wondered if they had a cure for all cancers, would they let the public know or keep the money trail going. Cancer is big money and I am not confident that the powers that be would even be honest about having a cure. I would hope they would but I guess I have become skeptical in my old age.


3 posted on 11/25/2008 2:13:15 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: neverdem
impossible even to ask what would happen if cancers were left alone.

I highly recommend reading the history of Nurse Rene M. Caisse. She obtained the formula of an herbal tonic, in the 1920's, from Ojibway Indians. The AMA did everything to thwart her efforts, as she was curing people with cancer, doctors had deemed incurable. The tonic is called Essiac, Ms Rene's name spelled backwards.


4 posted on 11/25/2008 3:05:22 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: Valkyrie927

A “Good Morning” ping.


7 posted on 11/25/2008 3:17:09 AM PST by syriacus (OBAMA'S CHOICE ----> leave a newborn's fate in the hands of 2 people who wanted to kill her.)
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To: neverdem
Some of the comments here really surprise me. I always think of Freepers as much smarter than most.

I have been dealing with cancer for over 10 years and that anyone would think that doctors know how to cure it and don't is ridiculous. Everyone reacts differently, so no one treatment works for everyone. Some are cured some are not, that doesn't mean that the doctor is to blame. In my years of chemo I've met many people receiving chemo of different combos delivered in different protocols.

Luckily, new treatments are being discovered and research continues. My treatment for cancer differs greatly from my mother's 25 years ago. Heck, my treatment now differs from when I started. Seven months ago we were planning my funeral, enter another new treatment, now we are going to celebrate my third annual "last Christmas".

9 posted on 11/25/2008 3:42:32 AM PST by patj
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To: neverdem

Perhaps the NYT is just doing the ‘prep work’ for the coming Obama/Democrat socialized healthcare...which will eventually end in people not getting treatment.
Now they can say: ‘not all cancers need treatment’...so your ‘application’ for treatment has been denied.

God Help Our Country!


12 posted on 11/25/2008 3:58:54 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: neverdem
See also Magnificent Medical Miracles, and Everyday Ones, Too...
24 posted on 11/25/2008 4:49:37 AM PST by Amelia
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To: neverdem

Who knows? There very well could have been people who had cancer, never knew it, and it went away without treatment.

I’ve been in health care for about 23 years now (19 as a RN), and have been around many patients with HIV and AIDS.

I had a kidney transplant this past May, and since my 16 year old donor had a history of substance abuse, I’m being tested for HIV and Hep C (I had been tested yearly prior to that, as a part of my annual transplant eval/re-eval, and was always negative). In September, someone in the transplant department ordered the “wrong test”; a HIV Western Blot, rather than the standard HIV 1 and 2 antibodies.

The results came back “inconclusive”; I had 1 antibody that was positive (on a Western Blot, 0 is negative, 1-2 is indeterminate, and 3-6 is positive for HIV). When I saw the Infectious Disease doc, he wasn’t at all worried (I was 20 weeks out from transplant, and by 24 weeks, the vast majority of those infected would be positive; I still remain negative on the “correct” test, and never had the flu-like illness that occurs with HIV infection).

My question to the ID doc was: could I have had an aborted infection, and have produced an antibody?

Of course, it’s possible, but there is no definitive answer, much the same as whether someone has ever had cancer (or any other disease), didn’t know they had it, and their body defeated it without treatment.


29 posted on 11/25/2008 5:29:24 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity: http://chronicpositivity.com/)
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To: neverdem

Perhaps Lord Obama, like the anointed Kings of England and France, will cure cancer by his touch.


30 posted on 11/25/2008 6:17:17 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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