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US spies killed in terrorist raid
Daily Times ^ | Nov. 28, 2008

Posted on 11/28/2008 2:26:18 PM PST by nuconvert

US spies killed in terrorist raid

NEW DELHI: Even though the Indian government has refrained from dragging Islamabad directly into the Mumbai terror attacks, insinuations suggest that diplomatic relations between the two countries may suffer in the aftermath of the attacks.

It is believed that the terrorists identified and then killed two senior US intelligence officers staying at the Taj Mahal Hotel.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, in his address to the nation, pricked Pakistan thrice without naming it. The security agencies in New Delhi told reporters they suspected the role of Al Qaeda in the attacks. The agencies believed their suspicion arose from the way the terrorists captured Taj hotel and successfully identified two senior US intelligence officials by checking the passports of the foreigners who were staying there, sources said


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; espionage; india; islam; jihad; mohammedanism; mumbai; tajhotel; tajmahalhotel; terrorism; unholywar
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1 posted on 11/28/2008 2:26:18 PM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Anyone who doesn't think that the Pak government was involved in this is an idiot.

The Chi-Com grenades nailed that door shut.

L

2 posted on 11/28/2008 2:27:53 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Lurker

brings up the question of whether the “Pak government” is really in charge of who its intelligence and miltary support


3 posted on 11/28/2008 2:33:52 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: nuconvert

Who gave out this information ?


4 posted on 11/28/2008 2:35:32 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Lurker

Actually for me it wasn’t the Chinese arms and grenades - they sell enough of those on the world arms market that anyone anywhere can get ahold of some. Hell, the Chinese have had some of them come back and bite them in the arse often enough.

No, what keyed me in was the discovery of mil-pack RDX and MP5 submachine guns in quantity. Terrorists almost *never* select the MP5, because they cost a lot more on the world arms market than an AK. They also require a bit of technical support to keep running and aren’t as rugged as the AK, again encouraging terrorists to buy the AK.

But Pakistan *makes* MP5s.


5 posted on 11/28/2008 2:35:33 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: nuconvert

The pakistani government doesn’t control the pakistani government. What we think of as Al Qaeda is half the Pakistani government.

They have deliberately mounted this attack in order to assure an Indian retaliation, and they have, I believe, deliberately left their fingerprints all over it to make sure the Indians know where to direct the counterattack.

They want India to retaliate. They believe that the chaos that will follow will be good for them.


6 posted on 11/28/2008 2:42:47 PM PST by marron
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To: Spktyr

Very helpful. Thanks.


7 posted on 11/28/2008 2:45:43 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Spktyr
HK MP5, NIB=$900-1500, depending on model. Few originals are transferable to civilians, and thousands are sear guns and post samples.
I've got 5 MP5s for sale, all used LEO guns.....40 cal and x1 10mm.....$700.00
Paki MP5 NIB=$200, used...less than $100.....it would be a piece of crap if the design were not idiot-proof. All-Post 86 dealer samples
8 posted on 11/28/2008 2:45:56 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

Disclaimer...all the Post-86 samples I own need LEO demo letter and only go to LEO/MIL/SOT.


9 posted on 11/28/2008 2:46:58 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Paige
Who gave out this information ?

Probably not hard to figure out, if they are under official cover, then they work at the embassy. For a terrorist, thats good enough.

If they weren't under official cover, then the fact that they stayed at the Taj was good enough. They were killing Americans; they just happened to be among them.

10 posted on 11/28/2008 2:51:45 PM PST by marron
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


11 posted on 11/28/2008 2:52:50 PM PST by kalee
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To: DCBryan1

Yeah, but that’s on the US civilian market. On the world arms market, German MP5s are typically between $750 and $1000 per copy. Strangely, most of the MP5 licensees don’t sell on the global market.

AKs can be had for $25-50 each at almost any arms bazaar in the world.


12 posted on 11/28/2008 2:54:35 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paige

Oh, you probably meant who told the press?

Yeah, good question. This shouldn’t have been revealed.


13 posted on 11/28/2008 2:55:02 PM PST by marron
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To: nuconvert
Trawlers, rubber boats, machine guns, grenades, explosives, intel, training, food, fuel, payoffs.

Yeah. Bunch of kids on their own.

14 posted on 11/28/2008 2:55:36 PM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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Odd that some South African commandos were “on holiday” at the hotel, and at the same time some US intelligence officers were there?

Coincidence? Maybe.

Or maybe not.

Maybe this date and this hotel were chosen for a reason (and, again to speculate, a date that the Pakistani ISI knew about).

Total speculation; but possible...


15 posted on 11/28/2008 2:59:30 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: marron

Well, 25 CIA station chiefs have QUIT rather than name names after 1/20/2009.

Do the math.


16 posted on 11/28/2008 3:00:32 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: CondorFlight
Odd that some South African commandos were “on holiday” at the hotel

Do you have a link? I hadn't seen that.

This is weird.

17 posted on 11/28/2008 3:05:25 PM PST by marron
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18 posted on 11/28/2008 3:08:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: silverleaf
"brings up the question of whether the “Pak government” is really in charge of who its intelligence and miltary support"

Of course, that is one of only two important issues in the world today.

Iran.

And, who's REALLY in charge in Pakistan.

I can see only nuclear war resolving either.

19 posted on 11/28/2008 3:09:22 PM PST by Mariner
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To: combat_boots
Well, 25 CIA station chiefs have QUIT rather than name names after 1/20/2009.

More info on that please.

20 posted on 11/28/2008 3:12:01 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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