Posted on 11/28/2008 2:37:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Who is Eligible to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.
Certified copies of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may be requested following the procedures for certified copies of standard birth certificates (see Certified Copies). The eligibility requirements for issuance of a certified copy of a standard birth certificate apply to Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. And the same fees charged for standard birth certificates are charged for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. Copies of the set of testimony used to establish a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may also be requested, and an additional fee is charged for each copy of the set of testimony.
Any person to whom a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth has been issued may submit a request to amend an entry, including a legal change of name, on an existing Certificate. A request to amend a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth will, however, be considered to be and treated as an application with the Department of Health for registration of a late certificate of birth in current use, unless a standard birth certificate for that person already exists in the vital records of the Department of Health. Should there be a situation of dual registration, the requested amendment will be made to the standard birth certificate on file if the required documentary evidence in support of the amendment has been submitted and evaluated to be adequate. If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health.
We had an announcement put in the paper with our local address when our grandson was born out of the country while our son served in Germany. An announcement in the paper is hardly proof that this is a conspiracy.
I'm wondering what everyone here thinks is false about the newspaper announcement. It only give a birthdate and the name and address of the parents. It doesn't say where the child was born.
ML/NJ
looks like the same one. I have no idea if it is fake or not.
I’ve been wanting to know about this as well. From what I’ve read, people (here or quoted here) have only seen a photocopy. Microfiche is authoritative; photocopy could be photoshopped etc.
Which Hawaiian hospital does Obama claimed to have been born in? I've been trying to find out on the Internet, but see no references to it.
It’s hardly proof that 0bama was born in HI. What do you mean “hardly proof that this is a conspiracy”?
The information on our grandson’s announcement that we had put in the paper had no more information than this one. We put an announcement not flowery, lengthy details. In fact looking at the announcement we had published it is no different than any other in the paper that week and it was also free as I assume were all the others.
Hmm—look at the “B” in “Robert I. Arakawa” in the 6th from the top announcememnt.
Now look at the “b” in “Obama”.
I wonder if it was normal in 1961 for newspapers (or this one - is it the Star Bulletin?) to use different kinds of font on the same page.
People who haven’t been reading these BC threads need to play catchup and do some heavy reading. This has been hashed out already to the nth detail. People coming from other counties, such as the Philippines, could arrive with a small baby and register the under one year old kid with a HI BC that way.
This one says “Osama”.
The address of the birth announcement does not make sense. The house was never lived in by her parents according to all family accounts that have been made public and was way out of price range even for a rental for an African student on a scholarship and a teenage mother. There is a small guest house on the property but considering the affluence of the neighborhood and the owner who could afford to live there, I think it highly unlikely that it would have been rented out to this particular odd couple. The only possible scenario that I can imagine is if it were owned by friends of her parents who were willing to let them have it for a while. It was also about 7 miles from the U of HI where O Sr. was going and all his known residences were in the vicinity of the University. So I think someone, maybe her mother, just picked an address to put in the announcement.
O Sr’s Honolulu friends, when interviewed about their time together back then, do not mention her as part of their association at all after their alleged marriage—I think because she wasn’t there. In the photos of him with other students she is not present. I don’t think they ever lived together as a family by the time or after baby Barry was born. She showed up in Seattle at her friend’s house with teeny baby Barry and was enrolled in the U or WA for the fall semester.
>>>There is a paper written by his Law firm that says the “natural born” clause should be dropped from the Constitution, so his guys have known for a long time that the “natural born” thingy was a problem.<<<
That’s interesting.
Because the Department was getting slammed with phone calls and requests for copies of BO’s CoLB. So, the guv stands up and sez, “No mas. No mas.”
Its not just that Obama Jr. is called the II on his BC in the same manner as being named after someone who is not his father.
In addition, the father is not identified as Sr. on the BC or in the announcement like other Sr’s. Omitting that is not consistent if he were both the father and the namesake.
Interesting and if it were not for the absolute rejection of making a copy of the BC public, I wouldn’t think much of it.
I could place a birth announcement at any time no questions asked. Grandparents often do particularly when grandchildren born somewhere else.
Does this announcement have a seal?
Then why would it be admissable?
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