Tinfoil hat. I don’t like Obama either, but this is a dead end street. Have you seen the birth announcement in the local paper in Hawaii from a few days after the birth certificate?
no.
link?
Am I incorrect in assuming that a Certificate of Live Birth is different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
Then why, for the sake of Aluminum Ore prices, are Obama’s birth records sealed by order of the Govenor of Hawaii? Why would anyone’s birth records be ordered sealed by the govenor of any state? Can you provide us ‘tin hats’ just one reason?
Could you provide a link so I can see what that poor innocent man has been hiding.
Big deal. Anyone can put a birth announcement in any paper. People here do it all the time when they have a new grandchild.
“Have you seen the birth announcement in the local paper in Hawaii from a few days after the birth certificate?”
You could probably phone that in from anywhere on the planet. And her parents were there at the time, right?
Have you seen the birth announcement in the local paper in Hawaii from a few days after the birth certificate?’
I had a stillbirth in 1959 that got an “announcement” in the papers.
Yes.
But that is not proof of anything other than the fact that someone gave the newspaper the information and they printed it. Anyone, usually a family member, can pass the birth announcement to a newspaper and they will print it. That's even more true of those days than than today.
It may be a dead end for you, but not for Obama. He has spent $800k and a lot of time to avoid showing one document that would put this all to rest, once and for all.
Ok, this is a really honest question, but has anyone actually gone to a Hawaiian library to check that the newspaper announcement was legit? With all the other forgeries going on with this case and as easy as it is to fake a web picture, some Hawaiian Freeper needs to do this.
Things do not have to be true to have them printed in the paper.
There are no Hospital or Doctor records to substantiate the announcement.
The Hospital he claims to have been born in, was not built until after his berth.
There is a paper written by his Law firm that says the "natural born" clause should be dropped from the Constitution, so his guys have known for a long time that the "natural born" thingy was a problem.
Did it say where he was born? Anyone can publish a birth announcement. Hardly a legal document.
And? That proves what?
That someone (perhaps DEAR LEADER'S MOM) placed an ad in the local paper after finally winging her way to Hawaii?
MOREOVER, what it does NOT address is The Messiah possibly having forfeiting his US citizenship when he moved to Indonesia.
Yes, I have, and it does look legit. Even so, a birth announcement placed by the mother or maternal grandparents in the newspaper does not imply that he was born in Hawaii. A birth announcement is not a birth certificate. In fact, in this case, the birth announcement did not indicate where the baby was born.
The address of the birth announcement does not make sense. The house was never lived in by her parents according to all family accounts that have been made public and was way out of price range even for a rental for an African student on a scholarship and a teenage mother. There is a small guest house on the property but considering the affluence of the neighborhood and the owner who could afford to live there, I think it highly unlikely that it would have been rented out to this particular odd couple. The only possible scenario that I can imagine is if it were owned by friends of her parents who were willing to let them have it for a while. It was also about 7 miles from the U of HI where O Sr. was going and all his known residences were in the vicinity of the University. So I think someone, maybe her mother, just picked an address to put in the announcement.
O Sr’s Honolulu friends, when interviewed about their time together back then, do not mention her as part of their association at all after their alleged marriage—I think because she wasn’t there. In the photos of him with other students she is not present. I don’t think they ever lived together as a family by the time or after baby Barry was born. She showed up in Seattle at her friend’s house with teeny baby Barry and was enrolled in the U or WA for the fall semester.
I could place a birth announcement at any time no questions asked. Grandparents often do particularly when grandchildren born somewhere else.
Nope. this street is not a dead end. It is a main arterial.
Probably, but it is still worth pursuing, and this is not tinfoil hat stuff. The question is, was Obama born in Kenya or in Hawaii? Obama's mother legally could and probably would have obtained a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth for her baby had he been born in Kenya. Had she done that, certain information might be missing from the certificate: the name of the Hawaiian hospital where he was born and the name of the physician who delivered him. Guess what information is missing from the certificate widely posted on the Internet?
I do not place much credibility in the supposed statement by Obama's paternal grandmother that she witnessed his birth in Kenya, but so long as this assertion is floating around, and since being born in Kenya would render him ineligible for the presidency, it is reasonable to insist that Obama compellingly document his claim to be a natural-born U.S. citizen. This should have been resolved a long time ago.
Obama could simply have released a copy of his birth certificate with the above information, and asked Hawaiian officials and perhaps a prominent Republican or two to confirm its validity. Or he could have asked his birth hospital to make the information public. Instead he has continued to pretend that the certificate he has released is adequate to establish that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. It is not.
The birth notice in the paper could easily have been placed there legitimately. It does not say where the baby was born, just that he was born. In any case, it is inadequate documentation of his place of birth.
Like you, I think that Certifigate will probably lead nowhere but to the embarrassment of a bunch of Republicans. Obama may have failed to release the documentation for exactly that reason.
At this point I would prefer that Obama prove his case, since I would prefer a President Obama to a President Biden, and since I don't relish the prospect of the race riots that would surely result if Obama were disqualified. Still, if he does not meet the citizenship requirements, he should not become president.
There are a lot of reasons to think there is nothing to this, but an announcement in a birth certificate means nothing.
Anyone can send those in to the paper at any time.