QUICK!!
Close the barn door!!!
***Yep! I always wondered who came down from heaven and gave these bigots disguised as Christians the right to proclaim who is and who isn’t Christian.***
It was Joseph Smith who walked out of the woods proclaiming thaqt he had a message from God and all Christians were false and ONLY he was right and he would tell you how right he was or else you would be sorry!
Let’s not hijack the thread on to mormon doctrine.
The origional add was false and it was not ONLY mormons who voted for Prop 8 but many Christians and non Christians who knew homo marriage was just wrong. After all, 40 years ago marriage was declared unnecessary if you truly loved someone. Living together was all that was needed. The Marriage license was just a piece of paper.
Now marriage is the most important thing a person can do...but only if you are gay!
“It was Joseph Smith who walked out of the woods proclaiming thaqt he had a message from God and all Christians were false and ONLY he was right and he would tell you how right he was or else you would be sorry!”
It is true that Mormons believe that the original Church founded by Christ became corrupted to the point that the Priesthood authority given by Christ to his Apostles and others was taken from the Earth, and a restoration was necessary. That is a foundational belief of our Church. Interestingly, in the 19th Century, it was a belief also found in mainstream Protestantism. My great-great-grandfather, who was a Methodist preacher in South Africa, wrote about the commonly held belief that the existent church at that time was a “fallen church” with a “hireling priesthood.” He was approached by Mormon missionaries in the 1850’s. He studied the Book of Mormon for a year, and decided that it did not contradict the Bible, which he knew “backward and forward,” as he put it. He thought it “illuminated” everything he knew about the Bible.
Mormon belief in the corruption, over time, of Christian doctrine is not that much different than the belief among Protestants that the Catholic Church had become corrupted, and there was, therefore, a need to break away from the authority of Rome. That is a foundational belief of Protestantism.
We Mormons also believe that the Light of Christ exists in all people to some degree, and that much truth and many good people can be found in other religions. We believe that those who believe in Christ as the Savior are Christians, even if they are not members of our Church.
Unlike some other Christian denominations, we don’t believe that good people who die without having an opportunity to accept Christ, are consigned to hell, or some other undesirable fate. We believe that all people will have a fair opportunity, in this life or the next.
We don’t accept the Nicene Creed. Someone referred to the Gospel of John for the concept of Christ’s divinity. We fervently believe in Christ’s divinity. We just don’t accept the concept of the Trinity. The Gospel of John, Chapter 17, also contains Christ’s Intercessory Prayer, in which He explains how he and the Father are “one,” and prays that all his followers will become “one” with Him and the Father in the same way — that is, perfectly unified in holiness.
There is no statement of the Nicene Creed in the New Testament. The closest thing to it is found in I John, and is called the Johannine Comma. It is now universally accepted that the pertinent language in the Johannine Comma was added by a monk, hundreds of years after Christ.
I offer the foregoing only as an explanation of our beliefs. I respect the right of others to adhere to their own beliefs, and I won’t slander you or your church for it. I would much rather have my grandchildren being raised around people who adhere to other religions that maintain decent standards — provided they aren’t badmouthing my religion — than to have them associating with secular, amoral people. We can agree to disagree, and work together to fight all the terrible things that are happening to our country and our culture, can’t we?
“Let’s not hijack the thread on to mormon doctrine.
The origional add was false and it was not ONLY mormons who voted for Prop 8 but many Christians and non Christians who knew homo marriage was just wrong. After all, 40 years ago marriage was declared unnecessary if you truly loved someone. Living together was all that was needed. The Marriage license was just a piece of paper.
Now marriage is the most important thing a person can do...but only if you are gay!”
you nailed it.
This really shouldn’t be about doctrine - this is about a right to vote one’s conscience.
How many people here have REALLY had a visit from the LDS like this?
I’ve had several visits. I debated with them. I didn’t like what they told me, and they didn’t like what I told them.
But you wouldn’t meet a more polite bunch of people, and they never stated they wanted to take away anyone’s rights!
What the gays really want is for churches to be declared “hate” organizations and shut down.
What is the purpose of the ad? They don’t think mormons should have been able to vote down prop 8?
Really?
This is crazy.
QUICK!!
Close the barn door!!!