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Posted on 12/12/2008 6:09:21 AM PST by NYer
THE Vatican today said life was sacred at every stage of its existence and condemned artificial fertilisation, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning and drugs which block pregnancy from taking hold.
A long-awaited document on bioethics by the Vatican's doctrinal body also said the so-called "morning after pill" and the drug RU-486, which blocks the action of hormones needed to keep a fertilised egg implanted in the uterus, fall "within the sin of abortion" and are gravely immoral.
"Dignitas Personae" (dignity of a person), an Instruction of Certain Bioethical Questions," is an attempt to bring the Church up to date with recent advances in science and medicine.
It said human life deserved respect "from the very first stages of its existence (and) can never be reduced merely to a group of cells."
"The human embryo has, therefore, from the very beginning, the dignity proper to a person," the docment by the Congregations of the Doctrine of the Faith said.
It said most forms of artifical fertilisation "are to be excluded" because "they substitute for the conjugal act ... which alone is truly worthy of responsible procreation".
It condemned in-vitro fertilisation, saying the techniques "proceed as if the human embryo were simply a mass of cells to be used, selected and discarded."
The highly technical document said only adult stem cell research was moral because embryonic stem cell research involved the destruction of embryos.
In the document, the Vatican also defended its right to intervene on such matters.
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Oh, and you need a simple lesson in biology to understand how multiples occur. I'll give you an example: a friend of mine had IVF and two embryos transferred. One split and she has three children.
“If science can improve the human condition, then yes.” Your demigod, ‘science’, can kill off a few hundred million humans and improve the conditions for the remainder. How telling that you would favor that, apparently! How revealing
Trust me, your arguments here, are available for all to see, and speak volumes about the feeble cause you intend to support.
So an embryo arresting on its own is now comparable to Nazi Germany? Come on.
No. I was making a joke.
I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Can you be more specific?
We have many n00bs filthying up FR of late. That these pricks (littel nettles, nothing more) expect to be given credulity and lots of attention is an immediate giveaway. Twisting and deceit are the natural democrat way don’tchaknow. It is to smile, they are so obvious.
Thank God for your eyes being open. God bless you for your selfless act of adoption. God smiled upon your family. Many do not realize that adoption IS Gods way of providing a child when one is prayed for in many instances. A child is a child. It matters not who made the clay, it is who shapes it.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for stepping up to the plate and knowing the difference between being a parent and father or mother only.
hysterical fool, i think not. No need for selective reduction if only 1 maybe 2 implanted. get an education before you spew bs. and you still do not address HOW MANY EMBRYOS ARE CREATED TO GET THE FITTEST TO IMPLANT AND THEN ARE DISCARDED,frozen, or used for research purposes. All are living babies. Good Day.
IVF takes a class of humans, defines away their humanity, and imprisons or destroys the members of that class in the service of whims of others.
I think that your idea of “common misconceptions” is your own. Practices in the UK are not too much different than here. It doesn't make sense that in the UK there are a million embryos to be killed but in the US, there aren't.
Feeble cause? Basic human rights for all humans?
Santayana was right.
>>I’m 42 and on my 3rd IVF. I respond well (12+ follicles, near 100% retrieval/fert rates), make beautiful embryos, but they don’t implant. Three REs all say we have “implantation failure”. Specialist say the reason for this is either functional (ie, progesterone surging too early, akin to P27/cyclin E situation) to infectious in nature.
In IVF#1 we put in 6. In IVF#2 we put in another 6. We had 6 frozen embryos, 1 survived thaw and we put in 5. So 17 embryos in three transfers and not a single implantation. We did not do PGD so we opted to always put in more. We went with the assumption that at 41 (my age at retrieval) the odds are that 1 in 5 embryos are normal.<<
it's the driving force of all life on this planet.
What's your point? Survival of ones self, I submit, more primal than procreation. Is it a right that you have food at your table? If so, are you justified in killing innocents to obtain this food? Answer carefully.
When you analyze deep enough, establishing a genetic legacy is the paramount motivation for all living forms, no matter how much PC nonsense can make arguments to the contrary. It's life's substitute for immortality.
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