[BMiles2112]

Keeping embryos frozen in perpetuity is not homicide.
Your dishonesty is showing. I have not made a single reference to embryos once in this exchange. I asked you directly if you would be justified in killing an innocent to ensure your ability to procreate and you said, emphatically, YES.

In addition, you stated in Post #95 that frozen embryos degenerate over time. If they do, then perpetuity is not possible. Plus that other bummer that humans will not exist forever, so the whole point of freezing embryos in perpetuity is moot anyway, but you knew that.

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

Your dishonesty is showing. I have not made a single reference to embryos once in this exchange. I asked you directly if you would be justified in killing an innocent to ensure your ability to procreate and you said, emphatically, YES. In addition, you stated in Post #95 that frozen embryos degenerate over time. If they do, then perpetuity is not possible. Plus that other bummer that humans will not exist forever, so the whole point of freezing embryos in perpetuity is moot anyway, but you knew that.

Aw, what was I looking for again... oh yea, "YAWN!!!"

Those arguments were regarding the comparison between the terminally ill, in vegetative states, being hooked up to life-support machines and frozen embryos. Both are more or less in the same predicament.

[olivia3boys]

I think I read that the “oldest” frozen embryo to actually lead to a live birth was an embryo that had been frozen for 10 years.

Just wanted to add this to the discussion.

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

In addition, you stated in Post #95 that frozen embryos degenerate over time. If they do, then perpetuity is not possible...

Like I mentioned earlier, there is no defined moment of transition, with respect to time, when the embryo stops being a living entity. Since the boundary is not sharp, and as per the trend over here to define such phenomena as "chance," "upto God" and all that, ahem, jazz, I included that. You really can't prove that you can't freeze embryos perpetually.

I included this to compare the situation with the terminally ill, on machines.