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McCain scolds GOP for whacking Obama
Politico ^ | 2008-12-14 | Mike Allen

Posted on 12/14/2008 7:40:23 AM PST by rabscuttle385

In a surprising rebuke to the warriors who fought for him through tough times, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday sided with President-elect Barack Obama and scolded the Republican National Committee for fanning the Illinois corruption scandal.

On ABC’s “This Week,” host George Stephanopoulos asked: “The chairman of the Republican National Committee, Mike Duncan, has been highly critical of the way President- elect Obama has dealt with this.

"He's had a statement every single day, saying that the Obama team should reveal all contacts they've had with Governor [Rod] Blagojevich. He says that Obama's promise of transparency to the American people is now being tested. Do you agree with that?”

McCain replied: “I think that the Obama campaign should and will give all information necessary. You know, in all due respect to the Republican National Committee and anybody — right now, I think we should try to be working constructively together, not only on an issue such as this, but on the economy stimulus package, reforms that are necessary. And so, I don't know all the details of the relationship between President-elect Obama's campaign or his people and the governor of Illinois, but I have some confidence that all the information will come out. It always does, it seems to me.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Illinois
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To: samtheman

McLame is like the dog the Dems keep around and abuse a bit. They just throw him a bone and pet him now and then just to keep him semi-happy in the backyard with the other
more favored hounds.


241 posted on 12/14/2008 10:11:57 AM PST by tflabo
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To: Roscoe Karns

BINGO!


242 posted on 12/14/2008 10:12:29 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (The shipping industry got out of wind power 150 years ago, any clipper ships delivering goods?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

LOL the crappers @ Politico just love throwing the McCain hate out to all Conservatives. I think we should ignore McCain except when on policy issues.


243 posted on 12/14/2008 10:12:58 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: tflabo

Why on earth would McCain think that,

OMG he knows how dishonest Obama, and how corrupt Chicago,

HELP,

Are they all insane?

All these stickin law makers, calling for Blago to resign, they are just as corrupt,

I can’t take anymore.


244 posted on 12/14/2008 10:13:48 AM PST by Sophia777
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To: chiller
but I seriously doubt Barky was engaged in the sale of his old seat.

Probably was involved but through a third party.

245 posted on 12/14/2008 10:16:16 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: rabscuttle385

I was wondering if McCain would be worse for us if he got elected. Well, this proves it. At least all the crap can be blamed solely on the Dems now.

McCain please leave and take all your RINO buddies with you.


246 posted on 12/14/2008 10:19:30 AM PST by dmanLA
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To: Sophia777
How do you spell bums?

RNC

They called me for a donation prior to the election citing ACORN voter fraud as their need for "emergency" donations. Have they pursued ACORN?????? Will ANYBODY pursue the biggest election fraud effort in history??????? If not, what's the point in ever voting again?

247 posted on 12/14/2008 10:19:35 AM PST by End_Clintonism_Now (POLITICAL DISSIDENT as of 11/4/08)
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To: rabscuttle385

McRino....strikes again.


248 posted on 12/14/2008 10:19:39 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, the media has what they want. The media has successfully divided the GOP/Conservatives. Now enjoy Obama Nation and his Chicagoian Socialists.

Until Conservatives understand the bickering in public gives the left what they love, the country will continue veering to the left.

“Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction”. President Ronald Reagan.

Moreover,do try to remember President Ronald Reagans 11th commandment that is IF you are truly Conservative minded.

“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.” Governor Ronald Reagan

For the love of this country, take the negative energy and turn the energy into a positive coalition building mechanism within your local area and state.

Wake Up America!!


249 posted on 12/14/2008 10:19:39 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: tflabo

McLame is a dog that enjoys getting hosed by a donkey.


250 posted on 12/14/2008 10:19:44 AM PST by samtheman
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To: rabscuttle385
I haven't perused the entire thread, so apologies if the following has been previously posted. Whatever, I just can't conceive of a better comment on the topic of John McCain than a quote attributed to Oliver Cromwell in 1653:

You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
251 posted on 12/14/2008 10:29:46 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: rabscuttle385
I believe two factors in the life of John McCain combined to create a man fully committed to public service, but one who does not see public service in the context of party.

The first factor in terms chronology is his military experience starting with the commitment of his grandfather and father who were admirals and men who had responsibilities for other men's lives that would give any normal man pause. That kind of responsibility must be exercised by individuals acutely conscious of their duty and self-consciously committed to integrity. This is the military ethos translated into civilian language but it describes a man with the power of life and death over others who must exercise that power in good conscience or he degenerates into a tyrant and a murderer.

The ethos requires 100% commitment to integrity. When John McCain entered the Naval Academy this ethos was battered and bashed into every midshipman and, despite McCain's screwing around, I think the message took. The academies work on the honor code, one of the fundamental principles of which is that the individual must do what is right in a moral sense and not content himself only with what is right and satisfactory for jailhouse lawyer. The officer must habituate himself to determining for himself what is right and doing it. McCain's remarkable career in the Navy including a fire on the USS Oriskany and his combat experiences would have served only to sharpen this honed reflex.

His conduct during captivity demonstrates that by the time he was put under torture in the Hanoi Hilton this facet of his character had been deeply rooted. But the experience of torture took him to one more level-he was broken.

In order to carry this thesis forward let may have resort backward in time to a post which I offered before the election in which, I think, gives us a better understanding of John McCain the man and politician than merely rebuking him for his inconstancy to conservative principles. It is my thesis that John McCain is no conservative but it is pointless to rebuke him for his condition because he earned what he is honestly and I do not believe there is a single one of us who would willingly endured it:

McCain's Vietnam experience was so shattering that he sees the world through a new lens, the experience so profound that he has emerged from it with a lifelong commitment to country. This gives credibility to McCain's claim that he is a maverick, beholden not to party but to principle and country. This claim to independence is necessary in a political climate in which the present occupant of the White House is found to be unsatisfactory by nearly three out of four Americans. So, the narrative explains why a voter can believe at John McCain is different from ordinary politicians, especially ordinary Republican politicians, and they can't believe he should be trusted to embark on a new course away from current administration policies.

At the end of his acceptance speech, McCain recited how he came to be utterly broken but then restored, even redeemed with a new commitment to service to others when a fellow prisoner urged him by prison telegraph not to quit and die but instead to carry on the fight out of respect for his comrades who even then were carrying on the fight for him.

Psychologists and scholars of religious experience, especially Christian scholars, have long been aware of the empowering release generated by total surrender of the will. One can describe this in psychological language, or in Biblical language, or even in evangelical idiom.

Whatever language one uses to describe these epiphanies there is no question that very often they are real and long lasting. Psychologists would begin to explain the phenomenon by reference to the ego. An Old Testament scholar might think in terms of the first and second Commandments and the muscular faith which follows adherence to them. Christians speak of dying to the self, picking up the cross and following the Savior to become a new man-to be born again. Perhaps the most famous example is recounted in the Book of Acts which tells that Saul of Tarsus was physically knocked off his horse by the Holy Spirit. Saul experiences an epiphany, Saul becomes Paul, and is transformed from a murderous persecutor of Christians to a fully committed martyr who becomes the great evangelist of the early church, indomitable in spirit, inflexible in commitment, and-like the other disciples- utterly fearless. Significantly, Paul, the newbie Christian, does not shrink later from taking on Peter the acknowledged leader of the disciples "to his face" to dispute matters of doctrine.

In contemporary history we have the example of George Bush and his transforming encounter with Reverend Billy Graham. Indeed, we have the Reverend Billy Graham's own epiphany in the forest. We have the numberless examples recited daily in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous. It is from the success of this group that countless so-called "12 step" groups have been formed to apply successfully the same empowering message of surrender.

The important thing to understand about these epiphanies is that when they are genuine they are often life-long and tremendously empowering. Lives really are transformed forever. Criminals go straight, alcoholics stay sober, and the miserable are made happy. In fact, these newly born spirits enjoy their new condition so much that they seek ways to prolong the joy they have obtained in their moment of sweet release. Almost universally, these people find that service to others is the surest way to prolong that wonderful feeling of well-being.

Isolated, sick, starved and beaten beyond human endurance, John McCain ultimately broke and signed a confession which he mistakenly assumed amounted to a betrayal of his country. Who was this wretched man who lay so anguished in that cell? In his memoir and in his speech, McCain described himself as a kind of a hotshot jet jock, a screwup, a discipline problem in school, and an accomplished accumulator of demerits as a midshipman. Evidently, he was also an enthusiastic swordsman. In short, he was an arrogant SOB. Now, in that cell, he had fallen far. The classic description of the crushing of the ego. At this pivotal moment came the means of his redemption via the prison telegraph: Service to others out of love of country. In his speech McCain declared:

"And I wasn't my own man anymore, I was my country's"

And now we know the rest of the story. This is not to say that John McCain was instantly sanctified in all respects, far from it. He still had to swim his way out of a giant mental, moral and spiritual hangover from his ordeal. His screwing around would cost him his marriage before he could swim to shore. Even today, the old self bursts out in temper. But when one lays this template over the rest of John McCain’s career, one should have little difficulty accepting the story as being essentially true (I for one believe it) and to accept it as a convincing explanation of his career and his conception of his role as president.

If you have stayed with me this far and you accept at least the thrust of what I've been saying, I'm sure your question must be: So what? What makes McCain such a maverick? Why can he not be loyal to party? Why did the experience not make him a conservative?

Again Kindly Indulge me and let me have shameless resort to another pre-election post:

What about the implications for us conservatives of John McCain's epiphany?

Well that of course depends on how John McCain defines putting country first. It's quite clear that he is not replaced his giant ego trip with a classic Reaganesque conservative philosophy. The danger for conservatives is that John McCain has no identifiable framework, no principled political philosophy upon which to identify the nation's interest.

The great danger to us conservatives, and of course to the nation as a whole, is that John McCain operates ad hoc.

This is what George Will has been alluding to in his column in which he expressed his dismay that McCain has called for the firing of SEC Chairman Cox, "It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed"

We know what Barak Obama's vision for America is, it is written down, not in his own autobiographies, but in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. We know also that John McCain has been intensely energized with a vision for America. We're just not quite sure what it is that informs that vision.

Whatever it is that John McCain put in place of his broken ego is a hell of a lot better than what drives Barak Obama. But that does not mean that we conservatives will not always be gnashing our teeth over John McCain. I can understand how a man who has been brought by torture to the very cusp of death really does not give a fig for party squabbles. As a military man he saw sailors not as Republicans or Democrats but as Americans. Today, he sees the country not as Republicans or Democrats but as Americans. It is not that John McCain does not value the Republican Party, it is that he simply does not understand that the American democracy functions as a adversarial system and not as a collegial system. If a party does not fight its corner, as it has not under George Bush for four years and in many ways at the hands of John McCain in the last election, the system breaks down. Our democracy just does not work right.

If Republicans do not attack Obama for the corruption in Chicago, the public will not be served because the truth would never emerge. The adversarial party has an actual duty to be adversarial for the good of the country. That is how in one application we limit corruption. One-party states are always corrupt.

Decades of experience in the United States Senate encourages collegiality and tends to rub off the sharp edges of partisanship. Military men are especially susceptible to this thinking. Chuck Schumer on the other hand needs no inoculation, he is virtually immune to the seductions of bipartisanship. But a military man who claims one of the most extraordinary epiphanies in American public life, can be understood and, given his extraordinary sacrifice for the country, perhaps forgiven if he sees the world of politics from the vantage of a different place.


252 posted on 12/14/2008 10:31:49 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: rabscuttle385

The pattern reemerges.


253 posted on 12/14/2008 10:32:44 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s the McCain that we all know (and rightly despise).


254 posted on 12/14/2008 10:34:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: rabscuttle385

I just wish he’d join the Dems already...


255 posted on 12/14/2008 10:35:48 AM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: rabscuttle385
Senator McCain,

Thank you very much for your military service. I wholeheartedly believe you think of yourself as a patriotic American. However, your actions speak for themselves.

I voted for you only to get Sarah, and in an attempt to keep Barakc Hussein Obama out of the highest office in the land.

Quit turning your backs on the very people who made this country great, and quit embracing those who are tearing it down.

256 posted on 12/14/2008 10:39:10 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: mass55th

I’m thinking the same thing!


257 posted on 12/14/2008 10:42:23 AM PST by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = Clinton's Third Term)
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To: TV Dinners

He’s worse than Reid. If he can’t be gotten rid of, at least can he be marginalized. He’s not learned lesson one from his pathetic campaign.


258 posted on 12/14/2008 10:43:46 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Oldexpat

Jeff Flake comes to mind


259 posted on 12/14/2008 10:44:32 AM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: rabscuttle385
In a surprising rebuke...

Why is it surprising?

260 posted on 12/14/2008 10:46:18 AM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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