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Bush says sacrificed free-market principles to save economy
Breitbart ^ | December 16, 2008 | Breitbart Staff

Posted on 12/16/2008 3:08:12 PM PST by Star Traveler

US President George W. Bush said in an interview Tuesday he was forced to sacrifice free market principles to save the economy from "collapse."

"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system," Bush told CNN television, saying he had made the decision "to make sure the economy doesn't collapse."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bailout; bush; depression; fabian; freemarket; gwbbailout
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To: Star Traveler
this will be blamed on Bush as well. I like him as a person but find him wanting to be liked as his term in office ends.

He will always be hated by the libs. He's abandoned the conservatives and so he is a man on a ship with no port to dock.

If you stand on principles you are judged on what you know in your heart and soul to be what is true and just. If he had a depth of convictions that told him to "bail" out the UAW and the golden parachutes of GM/Ford/etc.... was wrong, then defend it.

What about the bailout for

Abbott Motor Car Co. Detroit, Michigan,

Crawford Auto. Co. Hagerstown Md.

Farner Motor Car Co., Streator Ill.

Columbus Buggy Co. Columbus O.

Gaeth Auto. Co. Cleveland O.

Jackson Auto. Co. Jackson Mich.

Kearns M. Buggy Co. Beavertown Pa.

USA Oakland Motor Car Co. Pontiac, Michigan

Rauch & Lang Car. Co. Cleveland Ohio

Santos-Dumont- Columbus M. V. Co. Columbus O.

yeah... I guess we all died in the USA after these companies failed to get bailed out.

just sit there like proles and let the Inner Party tax your lives away. Trillion here, Trillion there....after awhile it adds up to real money, I guess.

What a joke. When is the first person in Washington going to stand up and admit that they are going to inflate their way out of this mess.....

Then the fun starts, cause it's going to be like musical chairs, except it's going to be the last man holding the worthless pieces of paper trying to buy food that is going to cry.

All the while kennedy, barney franks, the democrats will sit back and blame it all on Bush and the Jooooossss.

We are screwed. My advice is to educate your children and keep them away from buying into the B.S. philosophy of "buy the latest doo--daa in order to be happy." The left wants us all in debt and starving. They just might succeed.... but then bad things happen to those in charge when the feces hits the fan.

141 posted on 12/16/2008 4:53:35 PM PST by erman
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To: LibLieSlayer

QSL that!


142 posted on 12/16/2008 4:53:36 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: Star Traveler
Bush simply misspoke. Here's what he meant:

"I've abandoned [the] free-market principles [in order to appear] to save the free-market system"

143 posted on 12/16/2008 4:58:06 PM PST by paulycy
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To: Star Traveler
"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system,"

Egads. Just shadup and go home to Texas, dubya. You've dug us a deep enough hole.

144 posted on 12/16/2008 5:08:47 PM PST by Swing_Thought (pes.si.mist: [pes-uh-mist] 1. a well informed optimist.)
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To: paulycy

I always found it fun to visit banana republics but now must learn to live in one.


145 posted on 12/16/2008 5:09:13 PM PST by brydic1
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To: Star Traveler

I disagree with the basic premise of your analogy- that you can save the patient by something other than free market principles. Of course Bush and Cheney have not done a good job of practicing free market principles, so it is no wonder they are willing to sacrifice them. The economy, or patient, is indeed very ill, so it is imperative that free market principles be applied immediately. Government intervention is responsible for the economic meltdown, and we need it to cease pronto to have a chance at lessening people’s misery.


146 posted on 12/16/2008 5:11:30 PM PST by Re-electNobody
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To: M203M4
34 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes. Then we replace one Fabian socialist idiot with another.

Bush's legacy is Obama.

147 posted on 12/16/2008 5:11:54 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Star Traveler

“On the other hand, we could try... “We took the patient off life-support to see if he could survive... The funeral will be Friday....” LOL...”

LOL...yeah, okay.

Seriously, IMO, Keynesian-style relief packages are popular with governments because they involve doing two things that governments know how to do. One is spending money. The other is extending their control. By the later, of course, I mean by maintaining redundant structures that probably needed to pass anyway, ie, loans to non-payers.

Once implemented, they tend to drain available liquidity in order to pay for them. On one hand, taxes and other measures have to be increased. On the other, more money will need to be printed and rates cut, raising inflation.

Most importantly, they generally do nothing that the market, the splendidly adaptable beast it is, wouldn’t have accomplished on its own. Here on the West Coast, the real estate market was already recovering before the so-called bailout took place. The transition to a new paradigm would have been painful, as it always is, but it was happening.

All these ‘bailout plans’ do, IMO, is put pressure on the economy with no real benefit to the consumer. All to the benefit of power elites and their constituents-at least ‘til the back breaks and we’re stuck with a real depression.


148 posted on 12/16/2008 5:13:12 PM PST by tanuki (Summum ius summa injuria. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: Leo Carpathian

! :-)

LLS


149 posted on 12/16/2008 5:15:45 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: Star Traveler

I have a question that will probably get me hammered.

This report is from CNN, right?

I don’t watch CNN. So did Pres Bush actually say this, and in what context if he did?

Just call me a cynic. I don’t trust CNN.


150 posted on 12/16/2008 5:27:15 PM PST by berdie
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To: Star Traveler

Correct, you are a perfect example of a “compassionate conservative” aka statist.


151 posted on 12/16/2008 5:41:21 PM PST by saganite
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To: Star Traveler

Almost impossible to respond to such a despicable act. “Sacrificed it to save it”... Absolute, total, unmitigated B.S.

We are prisoners of the Central Banking System now, folks. Absolute prisoners. Within the walls of that prison a rapid decrease in personal, key Freedoms will now take place (those that remain). A careful guise will be maintained to ensure only those most in tune will realize what is actually transpiring. And they will be silenced.

Shout me down, attack me personally, do what you wish. If you fail to research, analyze, discover, recognize, correlate, and/or make an individual commitment to learn the truth, YOU will be part of the problem and not the solution.

As an aside, I’ve noticed a telling trend of Bush being quoted as saying “I’m sorry” in these articles. Every one of them about the bailout, the economy, and the financial crisis includes a quote of him saying “I’m sorry”. I’m sure he is... I feel better now, don’t you?


152 posted on 12/16/2008 5:52:15 PM PST by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: raybbr

You mean on top of the 10 or 11 trillion debt we’ve already got?


153 posted on 12/16/2008 5:55:58 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: Star Traveler
Two words back... Great Depression...

It's pretty well established that "abandoning the Free Market System", not only did not stop the Great Depression, it likely created it from what woudl have been a garden variety "panic" or what we now call a recession, albeit a fairly severe one.

Not learning from history, we're doing it again.

Of course what ended the Great Depression was WW-II. WW-III would likely end the depression, and probably civilisation for some decades or centuries as well.

154 posted on 12/16/2008 6:08:48 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: tanuki

Well, one thing perhaps will follow the failure of this massive creation of credit and money to cure the problem caused by massive creation of credit, we will once and for all be able to shelve and bury Keynes and socialism. Of course, many of us will be staving as a result of this idiocy.


155 posted on 12/16/2008 6:32:25 PM PST by brydic1
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To: Hardastarboard

Water on the brain, had to amputate.

In fact that might cure El Jeffe Bush of some of his ills.


156 posted on 12/16/2008 6:39:59 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Star Traveler
I think they were right about what had to be done, and quickly, and I'm glad to see President Bush being so forthright about it. No, I'm no fan of bailouts. And no, Bush/Cheney haven't endorsed marxism or socialism.

I've now spoken with 4 people I know who've been in production lines of industry in excess of 15 years a piece. They have told me they see financial tighting, around Christmas time, every year there is a Presidential election. A lot of money that would have been going to multiple parts of the economy instead gets channeled into... campaigns. Add this, plus "Dem chickens coming home to roost", add some other natural disasters.. and voila!

I think the U.S. is going to come through this just fine, not without a struggle or a tightening of the belt. But the U.S. will come through this.

I'm still in "wow" over the Feds move today lowering the interest rates. *wow*

157 posted on 12/16/2008 7:03:07 PM PST by Alia
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To: Star Traveler
You have succinctly laid out a "clarity" post - that which cuts through the shinola, IMHO. In comparison, when the President was elected in 2000, there were a ton of conservs/ etc., screeching the President should just wipe out the NEA.

Now, anyone who knows me know precisely how little I think of the NEA. However, I was against such a move. And I was a lone voice amid the seas of "kill! decapitate!". Why was I against such a move? Purely and simply because of what such a move would have done to every single state's economies. It wouldn't have just put teachers and administrators in the unemployments lines; but also the parents of the children who used to go to schools, etc. and on down the line.

I think matters which are that entrenched inside the system, that to decapitate it, kills also the very engine the enemies of freedom wish, ultimately, to kill outright.

158 posted on 12/16/2008 7:11:56 PM PST by Alia
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To: Star Traveler
Bush and Cheney have spoken, the bailouts are continuing, we’re heading into a Great Depression..., etc...

LOL! Quick! Everyone, into the cave. NOW!

159 posted on 12/16/2008 7:18:16 PM PST by Alia
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To: DCPatriot

lol! Stop that. Yep, these are the very *last* days of FR. No more money, everyone’s gonna be wishing for the good old days of Hush Puppy shoes.. and think of that one guy with anger management issues, throwing two perfectly good shoes away. What a Waster!


160 posted on 12/16/2008 7:20:27 PM PST by Alia
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