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All I Wanted for Christmas Was a Newspaper - Bloggers are no replacement for real journalists
The Wall Street Journal ^ | December 27, 2008 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 12/27/2008 11:43:59 AM PST by shoptalk

When my colleague at the Newark Star-Ledger John Farmer started off in journalism more than five decades ago, things were very different. After covering a political event, he'd hop on the campaign bus, pull out a typewriter, and start banging out copy. As the bus would pull into a town, he'd ball up a finished page and toss it out the window. There a runner would scoop it up and rush it off to a telegraph station where it would be blasted back to the home office.

At the time, reporters thought this method was high-tech. Now, thanks to the Internet, a writer can file a story instantly from anywhere. It's incredibly convenient, but that same technology is killing old-fashioned newspapers. Some tell us that that's a good thing. I disagree and believe that the public will miss us once we're gone.

Mr. Farmer, who is now the Star-Ledger's editorial page editor, retold his experience of the old days a short while ago at a wake of sorts for departing colleagues. The paper has been losing money and might have had to shut its doors sometime early next year. So the drivers' and mailers' unions made contract concessions, and about 150 nonunion editorial staff took buyouts as part of an effort by the publisher to save the paper.

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To: narses

Local government meetings are on cable.


21 posted on 12/27/2008 12:03:46 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: shoptalk
All I Wanted for Christmas Was a Newspaper - Bloggers are no replacement for real journalists

To the extent that some employees of the MSM are real journalists that is true.

I am one who believes that we need the MSM, just employees or real journalists, as long as the Internet provides access to all kinds.

No more limited to just the local rag, IOW.

Thus we can find the "rest of the story" and we can find spiked stories.

The bloggers, et al are a great resource for learning the "rest of the story" and finding spiked stories.

22 posted on 12/27/2008 12:05:00 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: kc8ukw
Look at the blogger that dug up that old Obama audio on redistribution at wealth. That was great, but how many more little bits like that would we have if we actually had 100 reporters looking into Obama's past?

Let's see...

That clip came from an editorial board meeting with Obama and editors of the San Francisco Chronicle. Those journalists sure did a good job spreading that bit of news around by themselves, didn't they?

Almost as good as the Los Angeles Times did with the video of Obama and Ayers at the dinner for Khalidi.

What good are your journalists if all they do is bury the news that they originate?

-PJ

23 posted on 12/27/2008 12:05:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: shoptalk
Sorry Paul, "Journalism" is reaping what it has sown. Your "profession" has screamed for everything it's getting.

Hope the bankruptcies are fun!

24 posted on 12/27/2008 12:05:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Mark was here

They are. Then bloggers take and YouTube the egregious BS and voila`, the powers that be HATE them.


25 posted on 12/27/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Gone with the Linotype and the penny paper.


26 posted on 12/27/2008 12:06:40 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: shoptalk

You will be missed by the DNC but nobody else.

Pray for W, America and Our Freedom Fighters


27 posted on 12/27/2008 12:08:39 PM PST by bray (Gov Palin isn't corrupt enough for DC)
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To: Paul Mulshine

"don't expect that Web site to hire somebody to sit through town-council meetings""

You are a desperate and delusional ding-a-ling. The mortals will do fine without you.


28 posted on 12/27/2008 12:08:50 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: kc8ukw
I disagree. The rise of J-school training has meant that news folks often know LESS about a particular subject.

Take Mr. Mulshine's example of the tedium of sitting through a municipal government meeting. Some folks actually care about issues debated/voted upon and can inform their local community through the inter-web thingy without waiting for the dozing "journalist" to file his story.

Some non-journalists are actually experts in certain areas and don't need to use the dead tree media's work product as a springboard for informed discussion.

29 posted on 12/27/2008 12:10:45 PM PST by shoptalk
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To: Psycho_Bunny
My sentiments exactly! I am looking forward to a bunch of out of work journalist. Wonder what they are prepared to do then, flip burgers?
30 posted on 12/27/2008 12:12:29 PM PST by Ditter
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To: shoptalk

“Journalists” forget that the purpose of a newspaper is to sell ads. The ads are placed on the pages before the stories are.

And most newspapers simply copy off the AP and Reuters wires to fill their column inches.


31 posted on 12/27/2008 12:13:22 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: shoptalk

I’ll miss the flash-bulb cameras! ROFL


32 posted on 12/27/2008 12:13:44 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: shoptalk

Excuse me Mr. MULEshine,

There are no “real journalists”, or very few of them for sure. FR is where I can scan worldwide news, gather some facts or keep it narrowly focused depending on my interest of the day, it’s got them all beat IMO.

Sure, I’d love to be able to hold a real paper in my hands and read, something satisfying about that as I dislike squinting at a screen, scrolling through an article but it sure beats the propaganda mills regardless.

In our rural Texas area we have a couple of weeklys that hit on the local town councils and issues as well as the annual Christmas parades and nice buck deer taken by locals, thank you very much.


33 posted on 12/27/2008 12:15:11 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: shoptalk
I disagree and believe that the public will miss us once we're gone.

America, the once-proud nation, certainly will NOT.
Good freaking riddance.

34 posted on 12/27/2008 12:15:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pepperdog
Just take a look at who's staffing journalism schools, for a typical example here's Robert Jensen of Texas Univ. In addition to the students who gravitate to Journalism as flunkees who can't cut it in business or the technical disciplines such as math, science or engineering, others are looking for easy curricula. It has become the bottom of the barrel being taught by the bottom of the barrel.
35 posted on 12/27/2008 12:23:53 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Swiftboating: Revealing inconvenient truths about Democrat candidates)
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To: shoptalk

“Soon, newspapers won’t be able to do it either.”

They already don’t. Maybe that is why no one is subscribing to them anymore and they are bankrupt.


36 posted on 12/27/2008 12:25:28 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: shoptalk

Many employees of the print and broadcast media have business cards or resumes that cite “journalist” as their job title. There is a vast, vast difference between that and the biased, op-ed hack that has taken over so many positions. I just want fair-handed treatment when I read an article. ‘nuf said?


37 posted on 12/27/2008 12:26:49 PM PST by pointsal
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To: shoptalk

I guess I should read the article, but Paul Mulshine just turns me off. He is a local, and there was a time that I had respect for him. But — in the past few years he has become just plain contrary, with a negative slant on everything.

Maybe he thinks that people will read his words if only to get a rise out of his opinions, but it doesn’t work with me. Mulshine? Ho-hum.


38 posted on 12/27/2008 12:27:12 PM PST by Exit148 (Have "man-on-the-street" types taken over the U.S.?)
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To: shoptalk

Yep. He’s longing for the day when only the liberally educated elites could shape public opinion.


39 posted on 12/27/2008 12:27:46 PM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: shoptalk

Waaaaa! My 15 minutes of fame is almost up.


40 posted on 12/27/2008 12:27:53 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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