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Francisco's 'Money' Speech from "Atlas Shrugged"
Atlas Shrugged ^ | 1957 | Ayn Rand

Posted on 01/03/2009 9:23:57 AM PST by Entrepreneur

"So you think that money is the root of all evil?" said Francisco d'Aconia. "Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

"When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears nor all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor – your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money. Is this what you consider evil?

"Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes. Try to grow a seed of wheat without the knowledge left to you by men who had to discover it for the first time. Try to obtain your food by means of nothing but physical motions – and you'll learn that man's mind is the root of all the goods produced and of all the wealth that has ever existed on earth.

"But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made – before it can be looted or mooched – made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can't consume more than he has produced.

"To trade by means of money is the code of the men of good will. Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except by the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss – the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery – that you must offer them values, not wounds – that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of goods. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men's stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best your money can find. And when men live by trade – with reason, not force, as their final arbiter – it is the best product that wins, the best performance, then man of best judgment and highest ability – and the degree of a man's productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil?

"But money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver. It will give you the means for the satisfaction of your desires, but it will not provide you with desires. Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality – the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind.

"Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of what he wants; money will not give him a code of values, if he's evaded the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a purpose, if he's evaded the choice of what to seek. Money will not buy intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money. Is this the reason why you call it evil?

"Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth – the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve that mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil?

"Money is your means of survival. The verdict which you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men's vices or men's stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment's or a penny's worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. Then you'll scream that money is evil. Evil, because it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money?

"Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned, neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of money?

"Or did you say it's the love of money that's the root of all evil? To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within you, and your passkey to trade your effort for the effort of the best among men. It's the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is the loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money – and he has good reason to hate it. The lovers of money are willing to work for it. They know they are able to deserve it.

"Let me give you a tip on a clue to men's characters: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.

"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another – their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun.

"But money demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride, or self-esteem, men who have no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being rich – will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt – and of his life, as he deserves.

"Then you will see the rise of the double standard – the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money – the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law – men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims – then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.

"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it becomes, marked: 'Account overdrawn.'

"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world?' You are.

"You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you, while you're damning its life-blood – money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men's history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves – slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody's mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer. Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers – as industrialists.

"To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money – and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man's mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being – the self-made man – the American industrialist.

"If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose – because it contains all the others – the fact that they were the people who created the phrase 'to make money'. No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity – to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted, or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality.

"Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters' continents. Now the looters' credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide – as, I think, he will.

"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns – or dollars. Take your choice – there is no other – and your time is running out."


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This is a speech from Ayn Rand's great book, Atlas Shrugged. If you haven't read it, invest $15 in a copy or borrow one for free from your local library. Although it was written 50 years ago, it's extremely timely for 2009.
1 posted on 01/03/2009 9:23:58 AM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: Entrepreneur

Thanks...great post. Although my kids have read Rand, I will forward this to them—good antidote for the socialist bilge that surrounds us.


2 posted on 01/03/2009 9:29:30 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: Entrepreneur

What people learn from history, is that people don’t learn from history.

We shall see how Obama’s policies affect human nature. It’s not going to be pretty. They’re not going to like the many of us that are ‘opting’ out.


3 posted on 01/03/2009 9:32:28 AM PST by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: Pharmboy

I pulled out my copy of Atlas Shrugged and started it on Dec 1, 2008 and finished on Dec 11.
That was my 6th or 7th reading. I have lost count.

I cannot recommend it enough for everyone who has a brain to read this book.


4 posted on 01/03/2009 9:32:28 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Entrepreneur
Although it was written 50 years ago, it's extremely timely for 2009.

"Timely?" Heck, there have been days when reading the paper I could swear that I was Eddie, wondering just what the hell is going on in the world around me!

One thing that I have realized, though... Leftists and dems have REALLY taken Rand to heart, though not in the way she could have imagined. Hank Reardon is hobbled by guilt, in such a way that he gives up his lifes work in order to try to save Dagney from the scandal and embarrassment of having their affair revealed. Eventually he throws off the yoke of the guilt ("the guilt of the willing") and he's liberated.

Well, what we've seen in the leftists and dems is that they've perfected that "liberation." They simply have no limits to what they'll do, because they simply have no shame, and guilt no longer limits what they'll try to get away with.

Rand is probably spinning in her grave over that one.

Mark

5 posted on 01/03/2009 9:41:32 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Entrepreneur
"Money is your means of survival...."

B/c it gives you freedom the freedom to tell people you don;t like to get lost.

6 posted on 01/03/2009 9:43:56 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Entrepreneur

It is not “money” that is the root of all evil.

“The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.”

That is the proper original saying about this.

Money can be put to very GOOD purposes...like donating to the FREE REPUBLIC during the Freepathon!


7 posted on 01/03/2009 9:49:35 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: Entrepreneur
I am actually rereading it right now. Some parts of it are like reading a prophecy that is coming true in my life.
8 posted on 01/03/2009 9:52:20 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Entrepreneur
Wasn't Fransiso her boy friend for a while. Darn, now I can't recall her name, its been 20 years. You know it is hard to keep the players straight in some of these romances.

Was it Naggy? No fair looking it up as anyone could.

9 posted on 01/03/2009 9:52:26 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Mark was here

Dagny


10 posted on 01/03/2009 9:53:49 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I heard that there was a movie in the making and that Angelina Jollie was playing Dagny.


11 posted on 01/03/2009 9:54:59 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Entrepreneur

I love Atlas... but dear Ayn should have used an editor.

Anthem is just as powerful in 1/10 the size.


12 posted on 01/03/2009 9:55:35 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (!edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY)
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To: Entrepreneur
Still wondering how the movie with Brad/Angelina will work out.

BTW, we named our new kitty Dagny.


13 posted on 01/03/2009 9:57:00 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Rusty0604

Thanks. ;) I thought I was close.


14 posted on 01/03/2009 9:58:24 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Dagny remionds me of my dear, departed Dulcie.

She is very beautiful.

15 posted on 01/03/2009 10:02:53 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Rusty0604
"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

Sounds familier

16 posted on 01/03/2009 10:05:22 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (!edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY)
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To: r-q-tek86
I love Atlas... but dear Ayn should have used an editor.

Anthem is just as powerful in 1/10 the size.

Editors are the looters and moochers of the publishing industry. Ayn Rand would have nothing to do with them. :-)

About the only thing in Atlas Shrugged that would have to be updated in 50 years is its focus on railroads. The politics and power lust in Washington have only gotten worse since then.

17 posted on 01/03/2009 10:05:41 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Entrepreneur

I’ve read AS a couple of times, and working on my 3rd, and I must admit that I’ve read everything else in the book, but I have never made it all the way through “The Speech.” Not the one in this article, but the one by John Galt that’s 70+ pages long. It ends up being a massive “preaching to the chior” effort to get through it, and I start skimming. :)


18 posted on 01/03/2009 10:05:51 AM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: Mark was here
Was it Naggy?

LOL! That's in "Atlas Shrugged, 10 Years Later."

John Galt: "Yeah, yeah, I'll take out the trash. Geez, with your nagging I'll never get this time machine finished!"

19 posted on 01/03/2009 10:09:07 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Allegra

Awwww, sorry about Dulcie!


20 posted on 01/03/2009 10:11:06 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: KarlInOhio
Editors are the looters and moochers of the publishing industry

Then Ayn should have edited it herself. Don't get me wrong, I love that book, but she uses 1,000 words when 100 would have sufficed.

21 posted on 01/03/2009 10:13:47 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (!edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY)
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To: Rusty0604

There was-Jolie had bought the rights, but it is my understanding that she has abandoned the project-thank goodness because she, Pitt and his butt buddy Matt Damon would absolutely ruin the book. (I recently saw the movie The Good Shepard-good story, but Damon is a terrible actor, I don’t see how that guy get’s work)


22 posted on 01/03/2009 10:15:17 AM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: MarineBrat

If you think you really understand Objectivism then you can skip the speech, I guess, but there is a lot of stuff in there if you can be patient and stay focused.


23 posted on 01/03/2009 10:15:49 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: Entrepreneur

One of my favorite books of all time, and certainly my favorite philosophical book. A great defense of, and case for, liberty.

Since reading it, I’ve wondered if it were possible to reconcile it’s meaning with Christianity. My conclusion is that Rand’s ideal would only work in a society where people have a Judeo-Christian ethic because not everyone would seek a fair exchange. Rand would hate that idea, however.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 10:16:32 AM PST by Lou Budvis ("I did not have sex with that woman..." = "I did not have contact with the governor..")
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To: r-q-tek86

You “love” Atlas Shrugged, but just not the way the author wrote it. LOL! Do you love any other books that way?


25 posted on 01/03/2009 10:17:38 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: ridesthemiles
I pulled out my copy of Atlas Shrugged and started it on Dec 1, 2008 and finished on Dec 11. That was my 6th or 7th reading. I have lost count.

I have it set aside to read again on January 20, 2009, a day that I hope and pray will not mark the end of the United States of America.

26 posted on 01/03/2009 10:18:48 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: Rusty0604

There’s much doubt that Jolly Angelina will be the screen Dagny. That book is just too much for Hollywood to handle if you ask me.


27 posted on 01/03/2009 10:21:01 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: Entrepreneur

Good post. Thanks. Ping for later.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 10:23:47 AM PST by mick
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To: Entrepreneur
Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it becomes, marked: 'Account overdrawn.'

If we haven't seen that day already, we will soon.

29 posted on 01/03/2009 10:24:22 AM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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To: Misterioso
If you think you really understand Objectivism then you can skip the speech, I guess, but there is a lot of stuff in there if you can be patient and stay focused.

I just don't feel like the speech (not the one in this article - but the 70 pager - for those who haven't seen my first post) is as well written as most of the rest of the book. Yes, it's rife with important information, and I've read it all piecemeal, but to read from beginning to end without feeling dejavu about ten times is impossible for me.

I do love to read AS, and much of the book is enthralling actually. But it has its faults, and the 70 page speech is one of them, in my opinion of course. :)

30 posted on 01/03/2009 10:24:44 AM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: Misterioso
You “love” Atlas Shrugged, but just not the way the author wrote it. LOL! Do you love any other books that way?

Is criticism not allowed?

I have a job that requires some creativity and I value constructive criticism because it makes my final design better. I have the choice to incorporate the criticism or to reject it, as does the creator of any work.

I submit that Atlas could have been improved by editing. Do you not agree?

31 posted on 01/03/2009 10:27:26 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (!edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY)
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To: Larry Lucido
"Atlas Shrugged, 10 Years Later."

John Galt: "Yeah, yeah, I'll take out the trash. Geez, with your nagging I'll never get this time machine finished!"

ROFL! That's good! :)

32 posted on 01/03/2009 10:27:55 AM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: Entrepreneur

Forget it. The productive people in this country are just the beasts of burden for our ruling elites.


33 posted on 01/03/2009 10:36:49 AM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: Lou Budvis
Since reading it, I’ve wondered if it were possible to reconcile it’s meaning with Christianity. My conclusion is that Rand’s ideal would only work in a society where people have a Judeo-Christian ethic because not everyone would seek a fair exchange. Rand would hate that idea, however.

Agree. One of the things Rand misses in the book is charity. I wish she had been able to write it from a Christian's standpoint, but I can see why she didn't (besides her not being a Christian), as it would have been twice as difficult a write, and frankly it would not have had the ability to preach to the chior who needs it most. :) Christians already have an individualist core, or they should if they really think about their relationship with God.

34 posted on 01/03/2009 10:37:02 AM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: TheConservativeParty
It is not “money” that is the root of all evil.

“The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.”

That is the proper original saying about this.

I think that was covered toward the end of the speech. I presume that Rand used the first because it's so commonly used and cited by the non-productive.

Love of money is a problem for Christians when the love for money, or anything else for that matter, is allowed to supercede the love for God and Christ.

35 posted on 01/03/2009 10:44:18 AM PST by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: Entrepreneur

Love that speech each time I read it. Thanks....
More people should read it because it makes so much sense.


36 posted on 01/03/2009 10:59:47 AM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: r-q-tek86
That kind of criticism of something you "love" is nonsensical, that's all I meant. When you ask if it is allowed, by whom do you mean? I love Atlas Shrugged too, but I was sorry to see it end. Too short. That's my criticism.
37 posted on 01/03/2009 11:02:56 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: KarlInOhio
About the only thing in Atlas Shrugged that would have to be updated in 50 years is its focus on railroads.

That, and having to drive 200 miles to make a long distance call. ;-)

38 posted on 01/03/2009 11:07:29 AM PST by fanfan (Update on Constitutional Crisis in Canada.....Click user name)
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To: Sundog

Excellent read!


39 posted on 01/03/2009 11:16:07 AM PST by Sundog
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To: MarineBrat
> I have never made it all the way through “The Speech

Just started reading it for the first time shortly after the election and got hung-up there for a while. What worked for me was to just take it a few pages at one sitting. I wonder, if John Gault were to make his speech today, how many listeners would have tuned out early?.

BTW, I want Ann Coulter to play Dagny!.

40 posted on 01/03/2009 11:32:47 AM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Misterioso
There’s much doubt that Jolly Angelina will be the screen Dagny. That book is just too much for Hollywood to handle if you ask me.

If Brangelina did AS, they would ruin it. They would turn it into a political statement about how cruel it is of the creators and producers to turn their back on 'those less fortunate'. I wonder if they bought the movie rights to keep others from doing an honest production of it.
41 posted on 01/03/2009 11:36:20 AM PST by GulchBound (Who owns you?)
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To: GulchBound

I don’t they would risk corrupting the plot when millions are at stake. Nobody would watch a botched version especially in this chaos that is now unfolding.


42 posted on 01/03/2009 11:56:57 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: Entrepreneur

To each and every Freeper - Bookmark this page.

It is possibly the best source for information you can find of the subject of Freedom, money and the American Way.
I Can't stress this point enough. It is the VERY BEST I have found in all my years working the internet.
I used ARCnet and had version 1 of AOL just to let you know how long I have been using the internet for research.
43 posted on 01/03/2009 12:17:00 PM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

It is not “money” that is the root of all evil.

“The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.”

Actually, the Bible says “money is the answer for all things.”

Ecclesiastes 10:19
A meal is made for laughter, and wine makes life pleasant, but money is the answer for everything.


44 posted on 01/03/2009 12:30:00 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: jongaltsr
To each and every Freeper - Bookmark this page.

It's a nice page, but their use of BCE (Before Common Era) is a turn off for me. We all know what it was before, and when someone can't even say it I find myself compelled to move along.

45 posted on 01/03/2009 3:24:57 PM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: ADemocratNoMore
BTW, I want Ann Coulter to play Dagny!.

Anne would have the appropriate sympathies but probably not the acting skills. I think you would need a really fine actress to sell the role and the attitude (regardless of her political sympathies) like a Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslett, Jodie Foster, Emma Thompson, Nicole Kidman, or Marisa Tomei.

Don't remember Dagny's age so that would probably thin out the candidate list. Helen Mirren would have been my first choice if she were younger but too late for her now.

46 posted on 01/03/2009 3:30:39 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: Entrepreneur

“An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced.”

Thanks for posting this. It’s been 40 years since I read it. Some concepts are timeless.


47 posted on 01/03/2009 3:31:46 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: griswold3

bump


48 posted on 01/03/2009 5:39:49 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: AprilfromTexas
Actually, the Bible says “money is the answer for all things.”

Ecclesiastes 10:19
A meal is made for laughter, and wine makes life pleasant, but money is the answer for everything.

And Solomon, who wrote Ecclesiastes, was the wisest man who ever lived.

49 posted on 01/03/2009 6:35:44 PM PST by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: Entrepreneur

You know, I would love one of these business owners go up to some union leaders and say, “you know since you guys believe that money is the root of all evil, and since you are a socialist by nature-which means that you don’t believe in money to begin with—I won’t be paying any of you guys. Either work for what the market dictates, and I can replace you.”


50 posted on 01/03/2009 6:40:24 PM PST by gman992
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