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To: YHAOS

“Have you a conspiracy theory boy-o?”

No.
It is noted that you did not ask if I had any data to back my statement.

I don’t think I’ll reply further on this thread. Science is not about rigged “debates.”


594 posted on 01/13/2009 4:58:07 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.
I don’t think I’ll reply further on this thread. Science is not about rigged “debates.”

If I’ve offended you, I apologize. Please understand, I’ve been hearing this same line of drivel for nigh unto sixty years. And I’m told it had been going on another sixty years before that. Not the efficacy of science, or the convincing evidence supporting evolution, but the smokescreen that Marxist/Socialists retreat behind whenever their actual agenda is exposed and criticized.

In the Fifties it was the crying and moaning over the tremendous odds that had to be overcome (the loathsome “rigged” debates of that day) against those awful Nazis (political opponents, in other words), just to get a little bit of food into the mouths of the wretched poor, and to deliver the most meagre of assistance to widows and orphans (sound familiar?). The Christians were largely left alone because they weren’t very politically aware or active at that time, although there were a few critics who seemed to be intensely incensed at the mere thought that anyone could believe there was a god, much less a god superior to the ideal Marxist state.

Then came the glorious revolution of the sixties, when all the hippies were sure that their wonderful Worker’s Paradise was just around the corner, presaged by the massive family wreaking social programs of LBJ (I don’t know why they call it a “worker’s paradise” when the last thing on any of their minds is work). But, a funny thing happened on the way to the ideal Marxist state; Nixon. While it’s true that his Vietnam War policy diverted the attention of the radical Leftists and took them off track on their push for a Marxist state, I’ve never understood the Lift’s hatred for Nixon. He established more big government programs than anyone since FDR, and certainly LBJ. Nixon signed into law the EPA, the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), the National Railroad Corporation, the DEA, the Supplemental Security Income program (SSI), the EEOC, OSHA, the Office of Minority Business Enterprise, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the first significant federal affirmative action program (the Philadelphia Plan), and he entirely did away with the gold standard. All actions that had to be pleasing to every Marxist zealot in the country. So, why the hostility? Nixon was a Liberal. Marxist/Socialists dote on Liberal Republicans.

Since you’re probably up on more modern events, I’ll leave off here, save to note a few things about that walking cluster-klutz Jimmy Carter (now we learn that even his habitat homes are flops). He created the Ed Dept (rejoice NEA and all you Marxist/Socialists!), brought about a huge increase in the SS payroll tax, took away 103 million acres from Alaska with the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act, and nearly destroyed the US economy with his monetary and fiscal ineptness.

Now, the point of all this is that every time any of the above programs, or others of their ilk, were opposed, there arose such a howl of anguish and outrage as to rattle the very rafters of heaven itself. Rush describes the howls succinctly (“sexist, racist, homophobe, bigot” – and, for good measure, throw in xenophobe and Nazi). I’ll cite a recent example of the same insane behavior: For seven of the last eight years Bush has attempted to bring Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae under some kind of control in an effort to prevent a credit crunch, but Lollipop Frank and Chris Dodd (among others) each time raised such a kicking, screaming howl that nothing was done. Now that the brown ‘stuff’ has hit the rotating oscillator, Frank and Dodd (and their coconspirators) are acting the complete surprised innocents, totally in the dark as to how this disaster could have happened.

Lay down the heavy, heavy burden of that crucifix you’re bearing (it’s been done – and by a better man than any of us) and drop that ‘poor little ol me’ routine. Do a brief study of my posting history and then explain to me what the purity and integrity of the scientific method and of evolution theory have to do with the objections I raise. Howls of anguish have nothing more to do with what I’ve posted than any of the instances mentioned above. I’ve had document dumps thrown at me (and by what is reputedly the best that the Science Community on this forum can offer), but mercifully I am usually met with briefer, albeit irrelevant, replies or by silence. Presently I await two replies; one of four day’s duration, the other a week. Both delays, I presume, for good reason.

I don’t expect your agreement, but I hope you have some better understanding of my opinion. I admit that I sometimes come up short on Christian forbearance (I’ll turn the other check, but often I don’t keep it turned long enough). Thanks for your willingness to at least engage.

640 posted on 01/13/2009 11:10:31 PM PST by YHAOS
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