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RAMOS AND CAMPION SENTENCES HAVE BEEN COMMUTED
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Posted on 01/19/2009 10:04:38 AM PST by Spunky

HOORAY!


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KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; bush; commuted; immigrantlist; ramos
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To: Guenevere
She IS all smiles and gave a great commentary a few minutes ago on WHY they shouldn’t have been in prison in the first place....they were railroaded.

Thanks for the feedback. I've been out running errands since I heard the good news on Fox during Rush's show.

251 posted on 01/19/2009 1:56:14 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Bahbah

Oh, Babbah, just think how happy it made her to think “Finally, finally, I get to use this! I KNEW she would eventually post to me!”

LOL!


252 posted on 01/19/2009 1:57:53 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Bahbah

Ha, shows what you know. There is something unbalanced about that harpie stalker and her gang of RINOs (or DUers, who knows).

I put that thread in my FR file as a keepsake. That was one of my most pleasant days on FR - to be shunned by the weirdo was a gift. I want it back.


253 posted on 01/19/2009 2:13:02 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: donna

Well, now that you’ve used it, it’s worthless for another go round. Ammo spent, as we say.

~ a Conservative.


254 posted on 01/19/2009 2:17:29 PM PST by aphid
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To: Spunky

Thank you President Bush.


255 posted on 01/19/2009 2:26:16 PM PST by PGalt
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To: donna
"You hate filled RINO monster. No one believes a word you say. You haven’t changed with your name calling"

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hypocrite

One entry found. 

Main Entry: hyp·o·crite 

Pronunciation: \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\ 
Function: noun 
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai 
Date: 13th century 

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 

2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings 

— hypocrite adjective

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It is said that one can tell more about a person by what he/she says about others than what others say him/her.

256 posted on 01/19/2009 2:42:12 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: PGalt

Hey PGalt! Long time no see! I’m really glad to see the commutation of the sentence too, sweated over it all weekend. I’d rather have seen a full pardon as would many but understand why President Bush did what he did.

(Got enough snow yet? ;-) )


257 posted on 01/19/2009 2:49:15 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Miss Marple
harpies:

Savage, monstrous females. Flock together to attack the unwary on internet talkboards. . . foul creatures

It looks like a reunion at FR under new names for your odious gang of RINO socialists. Here come the abuse reports and stalking of conservatives. You are a real bore.

258 posted on 01/19/2009 2:53:30 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: donna
Still here, donna? No mod banning you? No abuse reports?

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not interested in reporting you. Maybe you can get someone else to do it.

259 posted on 01/19/2009 3:10:33 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: quantim
(Got enough snow yet? ;-) )

I dodged some of the nasty weather by taking a vacation in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic last week with my wife. Should've stayed 2 weeks but really can't afford it (couldn't really afford one...but went anyway). Great to see you!

260 posted on 01/19/2009 3:13:41 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Miss Marple

You started this - look how you keep coming back. You’re addicted to ugly emotion. You should try a 12-step program for mean old ladies.

Reinstate my shunning, I beg you. FR life is so pleasant without you.


261 posted on 01/19/2009 3:29:32 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: donna
I told you, donna, that as long as you posted to me I would answer.

I am sorry you are so unhappy. I am quite cheerful, despite Obama being sworn in tomorrow. The reason for this is that I do not allow my happiness or unhappiness to be dictated by any individual.

It is a lesson I learned from Barbara Bush. She said we decide how we react to people, and we decide whether or not we are happy. I found those to be wise words.

262 posted on 01/19/2009 3:42:07 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

Why answer me?


263 posted on 01/19/2009 4:34:48 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: donna

Why answer you?

1. I provide another view of history other than yours, which I find to be negative and destructive.

2. When you address me, I am not going to leave a charge unanswered. (One of the mistakes I do think President Bush made.)

3. When you ask me a question (like you just did) I am going to answer it.


264 posted on 01/19/2009 4:46:22 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Spunky

To me, they are hero’s not criminals.

They should have been pardoned.


265 posted on 01/19/2009 4:48:59 PM PST by Shyla
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To: Miss Marple
I provide another view of history other than yours, which I find to be negative and destructive.

That's not your job. People are allowed to have conservative opinions on FR.

I'm telling you to stop stalking me. I won't hesitate to respond and tell everyone your sorid history of cruelty and anti-Freeper activities. So, you'd best bug off.

By the way, I'm not angry. I'm unappeasable.

266 posted on 01/19/2009 5:02:00 PM PST by donna ( Conservatism IS unappeasable! Conservatives will never cease resistance!)
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To: donna
It most certainly IS my job. I do not agree with you. I am a conservative, whether you agree with me or not.

Free speech allows all of us to provide OUR view of what is going on, which will one day be history. If my grandkids come to this site a few years from now and read your view of the United States as a dictatorship or monarchy during the Bush years, I want them to know that their grandmother stood up and said you were wrong.

267 posted on 01/19/2009 5:05:26 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: donna

Furthermore, I am not “stalking you.” I have not followed you to another thread; I am simply standing up for the President and answering your posts.


268 posted on 01/19/2009 5:07:06 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

The President who had border patrol agents put on trial and sent to prison on the word of a Mexican drug runner:

“We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We’re a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change — some have
praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.”

George Bush, campaign speech in Miami, August 25, 2000.


269 posted on 01/19/2009 5:20:47 PM PST by donna ( Conservatism IS unappeasable! Conservatives will never cease resistance!)
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To: woofie

It would be difficult for most people to call me a “Bush hater”. I voted for him twice, contributed to his campaign financially and as a volunteer and protested when Gore tried to steal the election in 2000.

That said, along with a number of other excretory things he has done over the past 8 years this leaves me cold.

They are out of jail. That is good. Thank you Mr. President. And thanks for not waiting until tomorrow morning at about 11:59AM to commute their sentences. You could have left them in prison for another day and still taken credit for releasing them but you didn’t.

On the other hand, their names were not cleared. The unjust convictions still stand. As convicted felons they can never work in law enforcement again. As convicted felons they cannot even obtain a CFL.

If the President had had the moral courage to grant them the full pardons they deserve I for one would hold him in much higher esteem.


270 posted on 01/19/2009 5:37:09 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
They are out of jail. That is good. Thank you Mr. President. And thanks for not waiting until tomorrow morning at about 11:59AM to commute their sentences. You could have left them in prison for another day and still taken credit for releasing them but you didn’t.

Have they already been released? I thought I read where they wouldn't be released until March 20th.

271 posted on 01/19/2009 5:49:51 PM PST by Ray54
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To: Ray54
Have they already been released? I thought I read where they wouldn't be released until March 20th.

I didn't see the release date and assumed the commutation was immediate. Looks like I misjudged President Bush again.

272 posted on 01/19/2009 6:05:31 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

I agree, they should be home tonight. But no, they get to stay in there for two more months. At least they know they will be going home soon.


273 posted on 01/19/2009 6:22:52 PM PST by Ray54
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To: Miss Marple
One last thought...

Yesterday I said I didn't care what you thought of my opinion...

..but I have come under conviction this morning while reading James 4..."Humble yourselves before the Lord....Do not speak evil against one another"

We were once friends...

..and I have always admired your ability to think on your feet and figure out political machinations and what it might mean.
..you have a good command of words and ideas.

We were both drawn to this site for our own reasons, but there was a common ground on many levels.

We have lost sight of common goals, I think, because our nation has lost sight....

Instead of working together, we fight amongst each other.

We both will answer to our Maker one of these days and that weighs on my heart.

I know God is sovereign.......I know HE has already won, no matter what happens today, or tomorrow or the next day.

I know he understands the innermost workings of George Bush's heart, whether I do or not....and will judge him accordingly, as He will judge me, you, and everyone else.

I know we are in a battle for good or evil....it really is that simple.

But in closing, may I suggest WE ALL stop the name calling & callous disregard for opinions of others.

There are many here, myself included, who are trying to work out, in our minds, what happened to our country and how we might, if possible, fix it.

We are scared, confused and floundering a bit.

Some of us thought George Bush was our ally....and yes, we should credit him with things he did right....but can still be disapointed with things he did wrong, especially toward the conservative base.

Yes, we have to get past this....but damage has been done and its hard to know which direction to go.

Yes, I have been bitter....and I need to put away the bitterness.....as it is destructive and not helpful in thinking clearly toward a solution.

Thanks to Jim Robinson we have this giant bully pulpit where we can discuss, share ideas and try to effect change.

But when folks start arguing and name calling....we all lose.

Free Republic attracts good, great people who want to make a positive difference......

..it also attracts those who wish us harm by disruptive behavior....who infiltrate to harrass and annoy.

I need to let George Bush go.....he is answerable to God now for what he did or didn't do....

...We now have a man in the highest office of the land who may not work for our common good....who may bring us to a world of hurt...

..but we are called to pray for him ....

..and I pray God will change the channels of his heart .....

I pray unborn babies will be safe on his watch....

.. instead of wholesale slaughter continuing.

And I pray you & I will see the joy of the Lord in this day and the days to come.

274 posted on 01/20/2009 5:47:27 AM PST by Guenevere (..........".If you don't run, you won't win".....)
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To: Spunky

I should have made it clear — a 250k fine & 2 years probation from a conviction for NO REASON is hardly my idea of justice for Scooter Libby. He deserves a full pardon without condition.


275 posted on 01/20/2009 6:56:03 AM PST by zipper
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To: gubamyster

Too little too late.

Hasta La Vista, El Primero Presidente del Mejico Y Los Estados Unidos del Norte, Jorge Bush!!!!!!


276 posted on 01/20/2009 7:05:53 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: SandRat

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!


277 posted on 01/20/2009 5:42:30 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Bahbah; donna

IMHO, your reaction is odd. What is wrong about keeping a post for seven years? Even older posts have been saved on FR and can be found with just simple research.


278 posted on 01/21/2009 8:47:00 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

What I found odd about it, Dante, was the petty nature of the reason for it. Certainly, posts have been saved that are informative, or that indicate that the poster was on to something important at the time.

To save a post for 7 years for the purpose of “getting back at” someone in a nasty and personal way strikes me as bizarre and rather childish.


279 posted on 01/21/2009 9:03:50 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah; Dante3

I have many threads from FR saved as a research tool. In the early years that was one of the stated purposes of FR.

I can still remember my thrill of joy the day that old harpie “shunned” me. Her, Howlin and the other harpies would target a conservative and then bait and torture a victim until he lost his temper and posted a rude response. Then they would begin to file abuse reports. By the time the victim realized he had been setup, he was banned by a harpie-friendly moderator. The harpie gang didn’t get broken up until they were so bold as to pick an argument with the owner. My “shunning” was a harpie tactical error, it broke up the attack on me. It was funny as hell.

On this thread, that old harpie, after all these years, started the first step of her old routine. You Bahbah, fell right in line like so many dupes did in the old days. YOu were so sure you knew what was going on and you moved in to assist in the kill.

That old harpie gets joy out of damaging anyone who disagrees with her RINO agenda. You don’t know the real hurt she did to wonderful conservatives back them. She can go back to her anti-FR friends - or, maybe she did them all in and is back looking for new victims.


280 posted on 01/21/2009 10:27:44 AM PST by donna (I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: donna

donna, there are important things in life. There are real problems, real challenges.

It is more helpful and healthy to focus on those.

And I know a good deal more than you think I do.


281 posted on 01/21/2009 10:31:41 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah

Whatever.

If you “know a good deal more” than I think you do then why are you so immature as to ridicule me?

I suggest you be the bigger person.


282 posted on 01/21/2009 10:58:35 AM PST by donna (I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: donna
I don't really have a dog in this fight but since its been ongoing in public I've become curious about a few things.

First, how does name calling solve anything? Pre-schoolers with undeveloped coping skills handle playground spats by name calling but then they grow up.

Second, why on earth would anyone care what another poster thinks of them? FR is not now nor has it ever been known for nurturing hothouse flowers or gentle treatment of thin-skinned whiners. Its a place were opinions fly and it doesn't take most FReepers long to take the measure of other posters on any issue.

Third, Where is it written that FReepers are not to post on other sites? Does the phrase, Get a grip, mean the same thing to you that it does to the rest of us?

Lastly, so you were shunned... or you felt as if you were being shunned. So what? Where you damaged in anyway? Please tell me that your self-respect is not so fragile that you would allow a slight or a supposed slight to affect your ability to reason for 7 years? FGS! we've had two national elections, fought in two wars, seen our economy drop like a ton of bricks and now we see our way of life threatened from within and you're still holding on to posts from a woman who probably doesn't even know you exists? Would you try to counsel a needy child who behaved in such a manner or would you leave that to professionals?

283 posted on 01/21/2009 12:10:55 PM PST by Darlin' (oh.... phooey.... lost my tagline.... again)
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To: Darlin'
Thanks for the live demonstration of harpie trolling. Your cover is blown, LOL:

A Howlin ping list from 2002:
Pokey78; Mo1; Amelia; kcvl; deport; Miss Marple; JeanS; terilyn; justshe; Darlin'

284 posted on 01/21/2009 12:44:03 PM PST by donna ( Conservatism IS unappeasable! Conservatives will never cease resistance!)
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To: donna

What’s this ... A Harpie Party and I wasn’t invited

How rude!


285 posted on 01/21/2009 1:02:05 PM PST by Mo1
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To: donna
Oh, dear, you didn't make the list... I wonder why? Ah, of course, must be another incident of that shuning thing.

If you have a moment, and clearly you do, please, clear up somethng for me. Your post to me is somewhat confusing. Am I the troller or the trolled? The harpee, the harpie or the harped? I ask because it looks to me like you are the only one harping or trolling?

Also, I don't get, Your cover is blown. I didn't realize that posting under the same screen name I've always used might be construed as a subversive or undercover act. Well, perhaps it might to one pre-disposed to post hoarding and ping monitoring. 2002? Imagine that. As quick as a wink, a ping dating back to 2002. Thats so sad. So very, very sad and terribly dull.

286 posted on 01/21/2009 1:08:00 PM PST by Darlin' (oh.... phooey.... lost my tagline.... again)
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To: Mo1

FOFLOL. uh-oh. Shunned. (not to be confused with punked) Poor, poor, Mo1.


287 posted on 01/21/2009 1:09:55 PM PST by Darlin' (oh.... phooey.... lost my tagline.... again)
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To: Darlin'

I’ll be sure to save this post ... you never know, I might need it in the future


288 posted on 01/21/2009 1:14:07 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1

LOL Yeah, right. As if such a silly thing ever crosses your mind or you have the time to waste on petty matters such as hoarding ancient posts.


289 posted on 01/21/2009 1:24:14 PM PST by Darlin' (oh.... phooey.... lost my tagline.... again)
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To: BufordP
Sorry, but this ain't good enough. That vindictive POS Bush allowed two good men to go to prison on the testimony of some POS drug smuggler. Dubya can kiss my ass.

Bush owes these men and their families an apology, but I don't think they'll ever hear one. The only person Bush is apologizing to is the SOB US Attorney who railroaded these men. He'll be apologizing for commuting their sentences, of course.

Good riddance to that RINO weenie. Now we have four years of what Bush and the other RINOs have left for us.

290 posted on 01/24/2009 10:34:32 PM PST by 60Gunner (ALL bleeding stops... eventually.)
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To: 60Gunner

My sentiments as well.


291 posted on 01/25/2009 6:57:46 AM PST by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system."--George "the Abandoner" Bush)
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To: Mo1

What’s this ... A Harpie Party and I wasn’t invited

How rude!


lol.... Well thank the good Lord you weren’t invited to a reunion of the Patty losers from times past.


292 posted on 01/25/2009 7:04:14 AM PST by deport
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