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Some incovenient truths about libtards
01/19/09 | Philistone

Posted on 01/19/2009 1:13:12 PM PST by PhilosopherStones

As we prepare to wave good-bye to America tomorrow, I thought I'd put together some of the thoughts I've had about libtard behavior over the last eight years. None of this will be new to most FReepers, but swing voters still get suckered in by libtard rhetoric at election time.

Libtards have no principles
If we define principles as a core set of beliefs and values which we hold regardless of whether they benefit us personally or not, then libtards have none. Bush spends $40 million on his inauguration during war time = bad. Obama spends $170 million for his during war time = good. Bush says closing Gitmo difficult = bad. Obama says closing Gitmo difficult = good. Bush says FISA necessary = bad. Obama says FISA necessary = good. Bush says we need to stay in Iraq = bad. Obama says we need to stay in Irag = good. Enquiring into Obama's relationships with Bill Ayers = bad. Enquiring into Sarah Palin's birth of her son Trig = good.

The fact is, libtards don't care about any of these issues unless they can be used as a club against conservatives. which leads to the following correlary:

Libtards do not have a positive agenda
This was proved hilariously by the you tube video (sorry, can't find it now, but you know which one I mean) where a couple of Obama fans were presented with McCain's platform and they agreed with it 100% (insert obligatory snark about how there really was no difference).

Conservatives are for the rich? (I know, false premise) then libtards are for the poor. Conservatives are for war in Iraq? Than libtards are agin it. Conservatives are against sending American troops to Darfur? Then libtards are for it. Conservatives support school choice? Then libs are against it. Conservatives are pro-life? Then libtards are pro-choice. Conservatives are pro-family? Then libtards are against.

Just ask a libtard for his "vision" for America and it's all negative: no more discrimination, no more poverty, no more war, etc. Never anything positive. They hate the status quo, but have nothing to replace it with.

Libtards use language empirically
This was a phenomenon that I experienced first hand with my ex-wife and it took me a few years to understand it.

Most of us conservatives use language to communicate. True, some of it is simply for purposes of social cohesion ("Nice weather we're having today."), but most of it is an attempt to impart or solicit information ("Can you tell me how to get to Wal-Mart?" "Sure, left at the next light and go four blocks."). These communications generally contain propositions (in the philosophical sense, not the red-light district sense), and those propositions have a truth value (the Wal-Mart really is four blocks to the left of the next light or it's not).

Libtards, on the other hand, use langauge as a lever on behavior. The goal is not to elicit or impart information, it is to get their interlocateur to behave in a certain way. And if one phrase won't work they'll use another. This is what makes communicating with libtards so frustrating. You are trying to impart information while they are trying to get you to do something. Mostly what they are trying to get you to do is to validate their world view because:

Libtards are fundamentally cowards
Conservatives can be conservatives in a vacuum. Even if 99.99% of Americans said the opposite, I would still believe and espouse the idea that tax cuts lead to revenue increases. Libtards, on the other hand, can only be libtards in a group. If lib orthodoxy is a belief in a coming ice age, then libtards will believe that. If lib orthodoxy is a belief in global warming, then libtards will believe that.

My family had a reunion a couple of years ago. Roughly half of my mother's 8 brothers and sisters are evangelical Christians (including 3rd generation Colombian missionaries). My libtard half-sister asked my mother: "OK, which families should we avoid?" My mother, to her credit, said: "You don't have to avoid any of them. They're all nice people. If someone tries to convert you and that makes you feel uncomfortable, simply smile and excuse yourself."

Libtards understand the fragility of their own egos and belief systems. They believe that somehow conservatives have been brainwashed to behave the way they do, and they know that they (unlike we) would be powerless to stop it if it happened to them. Which explains why libtards HATE being exposed to conservative thought. They know that deep down inside, they lack the intellectual basis and strength to defend their beliefs.

I don't know how many times I've been sitting in a bar here in SF, minding my own business, when some libtard I've never seen before will sit down next to me and say something like "Boy, that Bush sure is a moron, huh?" Libtards need constant approval and feedback that they really are the progressive, morally superior beings that they pretend to be, because they lack any interior support structure which would give that to them. In this way, they are like High School girls who constantly need to be told how pretty they are. To take the analogy further, libtardism is something exterior, a wardrobe that they can mix and match as long as they can find someone, anyone who will tell them that no, it doesn't make their butt look big.

Libtards embrace static, single social hierarchies
Recorded human history shows a succession of single social hierarchies, regardless of culture, usually with some sort of king or leader on top, an aristocracy, and at the base, slaves, serfs or the poor. Wars and revolutions may have changed the composition of the hierarchies, but they never fundamentally changed the outlines. These hierarchies were codified either tacitly, by tradition, or explicitly by laws and trade guild rules. The genius of our Founding Fathers was to realize that not only would a separation of powers be useful, but so would a separation of hierarchies. Thence forward, America has had hierarchies of political power, wealth, culture and the military. Sure, sometimes the hierarchies overlap, but they don't do so necessarily.

[Ph.D Thesis idea: The United States was the first, and is still the largest country in the world to have its political capital in one city and its financial capital in another. Show the effects of this on subsequent development of the economy of the United States. ;-) ]

Conservatives don't believe that Bill Gates would necessarily make a good President just because he made a pile of money. Conservatives don't believe that Rosie O'Donnell would make a good President just because she's famous. Yet libtards believe that because someone is rich or famous they would make a good leader.

Libtards want to replace the multiple hierarchies that we have with one single hierarchy, with cultural leaders on top, politicians in the middle, wealth producers and the military on the bottom. They believe that there should be one pyramid, and that they should be on the top of it. This stems largely from the fact that:

Libtards believe that society should be academia writ large
Conservatives confuse cause and effect when they say that universities turn students into libtards. The fact is that universities attract and retain libtards precisely because it provides them with a microcosm of how they would like the world to be.

Universities provide a strict scale of personal worth: a 4.0 GPA makes you better than someone with a 3.9.

Unlike the real world, someone sets out the expectations for you (graduation requirements) and the means for achieving them (getting decent grades). In the real world, you have to set your own expectations for yourself, and experiment with how best to achieve them.

Univeresities allow you the illusion that you are as good as anyone else. An A in Creative Writing is as good as an A in Chemical Engineering. Culture (liberal arts) is ever so much superior to wealth (the jocks that bring the school all that money) or the military (the dreaded ROTC).

Is it any wonder that when libtards finally look out from the ivy covered walls and see a world in which Creative Writing students get paid nothing while Engineers and Jocks make money and Soldiers get glory that they want to recreate the single social hierarchy that they enjoyed?

But it's worse than that, because academic libtards are comfortable with having their social status assigned to them by someone else. After all, someone else grades their efforts. Someone else sets the expectations and the goals for meeting them. Whatever sense of worth an academic libtard has was given to him by someone else. And they are comfortable with that. Leading to (finally, you say):

Libtards are children
The book that we all made so much fun of last year, "Why Mommy is a Democrat" could just as well have been titled "Why Democrats Need Mommies." Libtards constantly need an adult to validate their self-worth since they utterly lack any ablility to determine their self-worth by themselves. They don't want a society in which they are free to determine their own place on any of the pyramids, they want a society in which they are placed on the pyramid according to the scale of values they learned in college. They abhor and reject the fact that there are an infinite number of scales of value. I for one am a great father, a decent programmer and a mediocre provider. On any number of other scales, I would do better or worse than average. That's just the way life is. But not for libtards. For a libtard, caring for the environment or being a vegan should place them at the top of all pyramids. It just don't work like that.

Because they are children, they respond to discipline or even minor correction with "I HATE YOU! I WISH I'D NEVER BEEN BORN" (how else explain BDS?). But the fact is that they WANT someone to tell them exactly what to do. What the expectations are and how to achieve them. This is why they love (and we loathe) Obama. He's going to tell them exactly what to do and how to do it. We shudder at the thought of our lost liberty. They, being the children that they are, embrace the boundaries and the fact that someone loves them enough to set them.


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1 posted on 01/19/2009 1:13:13 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones; girlangler

Excellent points, and a great read. Agree 100% with you that a conservative can be so in a vacuum, yet liberals need validation. More than once have I been the turd in a punch bowl (i.e. surrounded by liberals) and it completely throws a wrench into their collective chi.


2 posted on 01/19/2009 1:19:20 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Libtards never met a dictator or despot they didn’t love.


3 posted on 01/19/2009 1:21:29 PM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

You forgot this one: Conservatives preach to the choir. Libtards preach to conservatives’ children in public schools and colleges.


4 posted on 01/19/2009 1:21:29 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Pardon me, Mr. President, but haven't you forgotten something?)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Where is the dude with the tard ping list ?


5 posted on 01/19/2009 1:21:43 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom. not Really ha ha)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Liberals are beneath contempt.


6 posted on 01/19/2009 1:33:11 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I’ve got a brother, a cousin, several partners and a bunch of acquaintances who fit the description. The ones under age 30 you can forgive for being inexperienced and immature. The ones over 30 are experienced and immature - but they are so damned annoying that the amusement of their idiocy wears thin very quickly.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 1:48:24 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Vegans are the cause of global warming, they eat all the plants that absorb CO2.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 1:51:10 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: PhilosopherStones

“Libtards understand the fragility of their own egos and belief systems.”

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9 posted on 01/19/2009 1:52:47 PM PST by AHWilde
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To: PhilosopherStones

You get an A+ for that paper.

Love the line “They are like High School girls”. How true! How true! Tomorrow is the prom.....


10 posted on 01/19/2009 2:13:34 PM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: PhilosopherStones

I really liked you post and shared it with some Conservative family and friends. I work in SF and live in the East Bay, so the hate Bush garbage is more than commonplace, it’s a religion. Saddam kills 300,000 of his own people, Liberals scream (a la Darfur) for the US/UN to bring them to justice. We do just that and then the stickers of “No Blood for Oil” come out.

I have been conferring with the battered and bruised Conservatives in the midst of the “historic” fact someone can be created like a 90’s boy band (see ‘N-Sync, Backstreet Boys or 98 Degrees) by George Soros, Joe Klein and CNN, amongst others. The fawning over the Marxist Messiah who is a fallacy, a fraud and a real danger to the US and her Constitution.

The sign the “Libtards” are truly deranged and mentally deficient is that the White 60’s hippies are now retiring with pensions, full Social Security and other self-interested programs.

Through affirmative action and quotas, they make their own children’s lives more difficult to get ahead, be it college or the workforce. Throughout US history, parents always strived to make a better life available for their children, the Boomers seem to think that since they got theirs, it’s time for society to compensate those less fortunate.


11 posted on 01/19/2009 2:33:42 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: wac3rd

“Racist!” “Barbarian!” “Nazi!”

These are all the libtard equivalents of a child putting his fingers in his ears and saying “Nyah nyah nyah, I can’t hear you.”

And for precisely the same reason.

Notice how often libtards are guilty of the fallacy of “appeal to authority” (especially when the “authority” is “well everyone says so”, or “the consensus is clear”).

You appeal to authority when

a) You can’t find another good argument and
b) you are dealing with an opponent who might be impressed with that.

Of course the most significant authority figures in our lives have been our parents. But some of us grow out of relying on them for all of our information.


12 posted on 01/19/2009 2:42:38 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: sniper63

Never ride in a car with Vegans unless all the windows are down.


13 posted on 01/19/2009 2:51:12 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: PhilosopherStones

you sugar coat things too much.
libtards are just plain stupid and evil.


14 posted on 01/19/2009 3:03:38 PM PST by genghis
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To: PhilosopherStones

“Boy, that Bush sure is a moron, huh?”

I’d like to hear how that conversation went.


15 posted on 01/19/2009 3:05:16 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

I gave him the standard one-finger salute and he moved away from me on the group W bench...

Which is pretty much how all those conversations go.

I was at the same bar, talking about this very subject with a friend and at the point where I told her the anecdote you cite, there was a young black guy next to us trying to order a drink. He said: “I’m sorry to eavesdrop, but I know EXACTLY what you mean!” He then gave me one of those subversive little smiles that we conservatives here behind the lines use to show solidarity.


16 posted on 01/19/2009 3:12:24 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

Well said all around! :)


17 posted on 01/19/2009 3:30:08 PM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: proud_yank

Hi yank,

Well, today (I’m posting on the 20th) is the day the liberal Messiah is being raised, and I turned on the TV as soon as I climbed out of bed. What I am seeing makes me want to puke!!!

The leftist media is estatic. Reporters are breathless. I watched interviews with two college students at the mall. One, you know, couldn’t finish a sentence, you know, without saying you know, you know, 15 times. She definitely voted with her brain.

Then the young man who proclaimed “I am from Alaska, and of course the reporter was giddy because he found an “anti-Palin” voter from Alaska. This kid’s Dad is probably in the Big Oil business, and of course he probably hates Big Oil.

These people are in for a MAJOR hangover.


18 posted on 01/20/2009 5:54:16 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: AHWilde

I pulled the same money quote myself.

Liberalism IS logically indefensible.

Have you also found that most democrats/liberals deny that they and their party is socialist?

When you lay out their policies side by side with socialism/communism, they ignore it and go into some denial such as the always convincing “don’t be absurd”.

When you put the Communist Goals for America in front of them and ask them which points that liberals/democrats haven’t supported and brought about, they state that those things happened of their own accord, not because liberals brought them about.

It’s maddening.


19 posted on 01/20/2009 6:22:37 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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