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Bush commutes sentences of former US border agents
Yahoo! News ^ | Jan 20, 2009 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 01/20/2009 7:15:03 AM PST by LuxMaker

WASHINGTON – In his final acts of clemency, President George W. Bush on Monday granted early prison releases to two former U.S. Border Patrol agents whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer fueled the national debate over illegal immigration.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; bush; immigrantlist; ramos
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1 posted on 01/20/2009 7:15:06 AM PST by LuxMaker
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To: LuxMaker

Better late than never.


2 posted on 01/20/2009 7:15:48 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: LuxMaker

No pardon? That sucks.


3 posted on 01/20/2009 7:16:45 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: tgusa
Better late than never

Commuted, not pardoned! Meaning they still have to live with the stench of a felony conviction...good luck getting a job in this economy.

4 posted on 01/20/2009 7:17:41 AM PST by meandog (The two named Bush get the bird from this hand!)
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To: LuxMaker

At least its something.


5 posted on 01/20/2009 7:17:50 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: LuxMaker

Frankly, I don’t understand, no pardon? Our x President just went down a couple of pegs on my list.


6 posted on 01/20/2009 7:20:03 AM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: meandog

G Gordon Liddy got a job. Ollie North got a job. At least they’re out of jail as of Mar 20th. I agree, GWB could have done better on this one.


7 posted on 01/20/2009 7:20:21 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: meandog
good luck getting a job in this economy

Maybe a book and/or movie deal is in the works for them. Hope so.

9 posted on 01/20/2009 7:20:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: LuxMaker

Cross referencing other threads if anyone is interested in reading them:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167463/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167473/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167466/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167598/posts


10 posted on 01/20/2009 7:21:13 AM PST by deport
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To: garylmoore

It all may depend on what their lawyers filed for. They may have requested a commutation because they still are looking for the original sentence to be overturned through the appeals process and this may leave that option open.


11 posted on 01/20/2009 7:22:25 AM PST by mnehring
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To: LuxMaker

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/01/bush-commutes-sentences-of-two-border.html


12 posted on 01/20/2009 7:23:50 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: meandog

I heard one of the wives interviewed recently. I believe she said they wanted a commutation of the sentence because they could continue appealing the conviction. If pardoned, the conviction remains. I hope their appeals are successful.


13 posted on 01/20/2009 7:24:46 AM PST by pelicandriver
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To: meandog

good luck getting a job in this economy.


Maybe so if they are depending upon the man to hire them. But if they have some get up and go they have opportunities now to do things as their own boss/company. Such as; the speaking circuit, books, movies, owning their own business [security guards, etc], teaching/instructing. They are limited to a degree only in their abilities to do for themselves.


14 posted on 01/20/2009 7:26:25 AM PST by deport
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Sorry, wrongo. A pardon inherently confers an admission of guilt. A commutation on the other hand allows the convicted to contest that assumption.
15 posted on 01/20/2009 7:26:32 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
A commutation on the other hand allows the convicted to contest that assumption.

A pardon can also be seen as righting a wrong, returning a person who should never be tried in the first place to a status they enjoyed before their conviction. Now the two men remain convicted felons.

16 posted on 01/20/2009 7:32:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: LuxMaker

Bush should have pardoned Ramos and Compean immediately after their conviction. Instead, he left them in prison, where Ramos was beaten. Bush deserves faint praise—if any at all—for pardoning them at this late date.


17 posted on 01/20/2009 7:32:55 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is decadence.)
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To: Savage Beast
Okay. Bush deserves faint praise—if any at all—for pardoning them commuting their sentences at this late date.
18 posted on 01/20/2009 7:35:33 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is decadence.)
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To: LuxMaker
Any other Pardons listed? Normally there are quite a few. Are there any Marines that haven’t been cleared of trumped up charges yet?
19 posted on 01/20/2009 7:35:47 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I am grateful for this commutation. I was praying for a pardon, but this is almost as good. I will celebrate the day that they are finally released.

This is the answer to a lot of prayers.

Yes, this would make a great movie.


20 posted on 01/20/2009 7:51:44 AM PST by mckenzie7 ( ANNA THE RETIREE)
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