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Lt. Starbuck … Lost In Castration.
Big Hollywood ^ | January 19, 2009 | Dirk Benedict

Posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:14 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: Surtur
and they can identify more strongly with males who (over)indulge by drowning their sorrows in drink

Sure but they are just getting lazy. How about one mean drunk who when he ties one on busts up the bar. Or one party boy drunk who slams down a few brews, sings off key and they grabs some cylon tush.

And on that subject is a cylon brothel like a Chinese restaurant. "I'll have a #3, and #6 and a couple of #8s on the side."

Oh I'm so banned for that one......
201 posted on 01/20/2009 7:51:11 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: mountn man

What I am saying is any one can claim anything in a nasty divorce. If she told the truth so be it, if not shame on her.


202 posted on 01/20/2009 8:00:14 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: EveningStar

bump for a later read


203 posted on 01/21/2009 4:23:42 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: fr_freak

The analogy to Truman is perfect. He wasn’t contemplating genocide, merely the killing of about 1/4 million people, yet he stopped to consider. And yet here you are saying genocide shouldn’t even be stopped to consider about.

It really isn’t a hippie show. You like to call it that, but you’re wrong.


204 posted on 01/21/2009 5:36:59 AM PST by dilvish
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To: chaosagent

The cheese wasn’t really in the special effects. The cheese was in the costumes costumes and character names mostly, plus their language modifications, frack was cool but yarens sectars and dagets got silly. It was a cheesy show.

If they wanted M&M in the time slot it was because they could produce an entire season of M&M for the price of 1 or 2 eps of BSG. In the DVD extras they talk about how high the ratings needed to be for the show to be profitable, that’s where I stole the Super Bowl line from.


205 posted on 01/21/2009 5:42:12 AM PST by dilvish
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To: Question_Assumptions

Funny the guy named question_assumptions is saying genocide should be attempted without bothering to spend a couple minutes to say “are we sure”.


206 posted on 01/21/2009 5:43:52 AM PST by dilvish
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To: EveningStar
I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior.

Having watched both, the new version is technically better but is a complete bend-over to the PC crowd. There is no coherent plot direction at the present time and any show that will deny its own tradition in the interests of political correctness is not worth taking seriously.

207 posted on 01/21/2009 5:48:47 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: EveningStar

By the way, this article is MASTERFUL.


208 posted on 01/21/2009 5:54:31 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: EveningStar
The original BSG really wasn't very good.

Correct. It was intended to be very corny/cheeky. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior.

It is far, far worse. While it doesn't have the corny dialog and cheesy special effects, every one of its characters, even the noble leader Adama is so deeply conflicted it just winds up being even cornier on a much deeper level.

People with the kinds of dysfunctions of every single character usually wind up homeless and talking to themselves, not shepherding the remnant of humanity across the galaxy while constantly in danger of extermination.

They only survive because the Cylons are also so hopelessly dysfunctional your average high school could devise a strategy to wipe them out.

The whole thing represents the worldview of your average burned out, alcoholic, drug addicted, child molesting, five time divorced hollywood director.

209 posted on 01/21/2009 6:06:03 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: wally_bert
In addition to the three you mentioned, don't forget Anne Lockhart - Sheba of Silver Spar Squadron. Cain's daughter if I remember right. A great Lloyd Bridges role to me.

Oh, they made Cain into a woman in the new one too. The actress that played Ensign Ro on Star Trek NG, plays that part.

And Anne Lockhart, is good conservative woman. And pretty good with a 12GA on the clay/skeet range.

I wish they would have called GINO something else.

210 posted on 01/21/2009 6:33:06 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Question_Assumptions

Not a spark of life among them, just like white liberals.


211 posted on 01/21/2009 7:19:42 AM PST by junta (Not even respectable mainstream conservatives can save liberalism.)
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To: EveningStar

“The original BSG really wasn’t very good.”

The original BSG was a good idea, ruined of course by Hollywood which turned it into a children’s show.

The re-imagined version is better. Grittier, slightly more believable once you invoke the willing suspension of disbelief. The women are hot. It’ll do for tv.


212 posted on 01/21/2009 7:26:24 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: fr_freak
Well, it sounds like this gay hippie show is right up your alley.

What an intelligent comment. Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.

213 posted on 01/21/2009 7:54:03 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Question_Assumptions
You can’t really blame Jerri Ryan because she fought, with Jack, to keep those papers sealed. It was the judge and the papers that forced them to be unsealed.

I know. She seemed very decent about the divorce. It's just interesting how relatively small events (some kimky sexual stuff between husband and wife) can indirectly result in much bigger events (Obama in the White House).

214 posted on 01/21/2009 8:02:04 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Mr Rogers
Guys don’t watch shows about abortion.

Huh?

215 posted on 01/21/2009 8:03:04 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: hopespringseternal
While it doesn't have the corny dialog and cheesy special effects, every one of its characters, even the noble leader Adama is so deeply conflicted it just winds up being even cornier on a much deeper level.

Part of that comes from the fact as to who was crewing Galactica at the time of the holocaust of the 12 colonies. Galactica was reaching the end of its service in the Colonial Fleet and was about to be turned into a museum. The crew was mostly composed of old warhorses near retirement (Adama and Tigh) and young crewmen getting some experience before transferring onto a modern warship (Cali, Dee). This was not a front-line Battlestar, like Pegasus.

The President, Laura Roslyn, was the Secretary of Education and only became President when the rest of the government was wiped out.

That's the context of the series- the war is over and the humans already lost. This is a fleet of refugees trying to escape.

216 posted on 01/21/2009 8:19:06 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: MoreGovLess

Quote; “Have we been watching the same show? You’re weird, dude.”

Sure we have been watching the same show. The cylons try to wipeout the entire human race and continue to do so. They are relentless in this goal. Yet when the human race can secure its survival by ensuring the extinction of the cyclons they balk because “it would not be morally right to wipeout a sepcies.” Afterall, it was the humans that made the cyclons, thus what right would they have to defend themselves by seeking to destroy the cylons?

That message seems to fit right into the lefist view of the world, i.e. the terrorists attacked us on 9/11. But we made them terrorists. Thus, what right do we have to seek to destroy them?

Weird? Ok, if you say so. But I think it is more of a question of not trusting anything that Hollyweird puts out anymore. Always an agenda, always a damn message.


217 posted on 01/21/2009 9:43:11 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: AFreeBird
Lady Cain was a tough cookie and she did a good job in that role.

I looked up her official page and glad to see that there is a lot there. She was probably my favorite of the old BSG ladies, hard to say why though. Call it good taste. The others were good in their own rights, don't get me wrong.

I tried to register on Ann's page but the system kept flagging me as a spammer. Another actress that I am glad to see have their own page is Stephanie Zimbalist. She autographed a book for me as well as some theater stuff.

218 posted on 01/21/2009 9:48:28 AM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: EveningStar

the neve version is VASTLY inferior. You end up wishing EVERYONE would lose and die.

The special effects are light years superior but that is not enough to salvate the pro-homo left wing union thug socialist nutjob writing.


219 posted on 01/21/2009 9:52:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EveningStar

Wrong.
Production values are better. Acting is probably better. But “old” BSG was about people being their best under bad circumstances. GINO (Galactica In Name Only) is about people being their worst. The story line sucks. And both sides are too stupid to live.


220 posted on 01/21/2009 9:53:20 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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