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Microsoft to axe 5,000, no job cuts in India
Times of India ^

Posted on 01/24/2009 12:47:18 PM PST by Tempest

"Microsoft will eliminate up to 5,000 jobs in R&D, HR, marketing, sales, finance, legal, and IT over the next 18 months, including 1,400 jobs today," the company said in a statement.

The layoff, however, would not be impacting the Indian operations. "It's not going to impact us. No job cuts in India," a Microsoft India spokesperson said in New Delhi.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; layoffs; msn; outsource; zero; zeroworship
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I'm glad that our free market system of capitalism can serve to further depress the wages of Americans.
1 posted on 01/24/2009 12:47:27 PM PST by Tempest
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To: Tempest

Judging by the idiocy coming out of Microsoft, as well as the low quality of their last major product release (Vista), there are a LOT of Microsofties that need to lose their jobs.


2 posted on 01/24/2009 12:52:14 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tempest

Microsoft is a virtual monopoly violating the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. It needs to be broken up.


3 posted on 01/24/2009 12:54:23 PM PST by yorkie01
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Yeah I can’t wait for the India version of Vista...

The poor interface decisions of Vista are a management decision not a programming one.


4 posted on 01/24/2009 12:59:15 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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Look at this way AhhPou, Microsoft is opening newer, brighter vistas for you!


5 posted on 01/24/2009 1:01:38 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Tempest

Ah, but that’s just it.

Most of Microsoft’s affected employees that are getting canned ARE management.


6 posted on 01/24/2009 1:17:42 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I'm glad that our free market system of capitalism can serve to further depress the wages of Americans.

It is the way of the universe, and not something to blame on American capitalism or free trade.

TANSTAAFL.

If Americans want to be paid far more than other workers, then they have to produce far more than other workers...and/or drop things like OSHA protection, etc. We could artificially prop up wages like the UAW does, but what does that do? Puts the US company out of business while foreign ones thrive.

7 posted on 01/24/2009 1:19:42 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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The poor interface decisions of Vista are a management decision not a programming one.

I find the interface of Vista merely annoying. I detest Office 2007. They moved every single menu choice and now I spend three or four minutes trying to find commands I used to know by heart. In addition, they've changed the format of the saved files, so previous versions of Office won't open them without a patch, and of course, my version of Office at home (Mac, got it four years ago so I could open work files) doesn't have a patch available.

They've also done the usual MS thing of making it so inconvenient to save in the old 2003 format that they're hoping you'll upgrade just to avoid doing it. I have one file I password protect and work on from both the office and home. It's not super secret, just something that shouldn't be accessed by everyone. Every time I save it at the Office, I have to click an extra idiot screen that says "No I don't want the greater security of Office 2007 encryption."

I'd never used the Mac Pages/Numbers/Keynote because Office is more common and the MS Office programs are more powerful. I'm at a point now that if I can avoid Office, I do it, and I have purchased iWork and do all my home business stuff (either goes to print or it's just for my use) on it.

I think a lot of Microsoft's business decisions are brilliant, but they're frequently to benefit Microsoft, not the consumer. For example, the new docx, xlsx, etc., formats are to make using earlier versions of Office inconvenient, not because people wanted their files zipped every time they saved them. If you click on "help" in Office 2007, it does an MS web site search for the help topic, rather than having local files. I'm pretty sure that was to allow them to do a piracy check on Office. At my college, our servers are slow and we have a web filter that slows it down more. Clicking on help creates about a thirty second delay before the screen comes up and you can enter your search topic. Again, it benefits MS, not the consumer.

8 posted on 01/24/2009 1:22:40 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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Drop OSHA Protection?! WTF is wrong with this place sometimes?! Are you an alien or are you actually that greedy that people just don’t matter???


9 posted on 01/24/2009 1:36:09 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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Drop OSHA Protection?! WTF is wrong with this place sometimes?! Are you an alien or are you actually that greedy that people just don’t matter???

If you yell loudly enough, does the sky give you gumdrops?

Most of us have to face reality, and the reality is, TANSTAAFL.

Why not insist all American workers get a free mansion and yacht, as long as claiming we have to deal with reality is so bad?

"Greed" is expecting a German consumer to buy something (using his own hard-earned wages) from an American firm at ten times the price than he could get the same thing elsewhere.

And being anti-American is to insist that Americans get paid more than others, such that companies can no longer stay in business in America because foreign firms can outcompete them.

10 posted on 01/24/2009 2:09:05 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Headline?

Job cuts here but not in India
It's Patriotism, Explains Microsoft
"Americans should join the military, to protect us."

11 posted on 01/24/2009 2:45:21 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: yorkie01
"Microsoft is a virtual monopoly violating the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.

It looks like Google is headed down the same path.
12 posted on 01/24/2009 3:00:08 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Tempest

Too bad for you that we’re still a relatively free country.


13 posted on 01/24/2009 3:06:40 PM PST by Live and let live conservative ($)
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"If Americans want to be paid far more than other workers, then they have to produce far more than other workers...and/or drop things like OSHA protection, etc."

LOL! Fine with me.

Let's start with your work environment, job/labor market, and community in general. There aren't many high paying job functions in the USA that can't be completely outsourced or turned into sweatshops with a little cost cutting ingenuity.
14 posted on 01/24/2009 3:09:54 PM PST by indthkr
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Microsoft is a virtual monopoly violating the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. It needs to be broken up.

You people are hopeless. God help this country if you represent conservative thinking in the U.S.

God this site sucks nowadays. Nothing but Christ loving Marxists. Seriously.

15 posted on 01/24/2009 3:11:47 PM PST by Live and let live conservative (Free Republic: Home of the Christian Marxist Statist. Good riddance.)
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To: Richard Kimball
it so inconvenient to save in the old 2003 format

Open Word Options.

Choose the Save menu item.

In the drop down list on the first line change the default save format to Word 1997-2003 .doc files

16 posted on 01/24/2009 3:18:03 PM PST by longjack
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To: indthkr

Agreed.

But some people just curse gravity when they trip and fall, rather than face reality.


17 posted on 01/24/2009 4:00:21 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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You people are hopeless. God help this country if you represent conservative thinking in the U.S.

God this site sucks nowadays. Nothing but Christ loving Marxists. Seriously.

Ain't that the truth! There aren't many conservatives here!

And the funny thing about "Christ-loving" is that many who claim to follow Christ are ignoring His teachings...rather than shaking off the dust from their sandals and moving on, they want to call in the Romans to force their way upon others.

18 posted on 01/24/2009 4:04:13 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: longjack
Thanks. Actually, that was the first thing I did when they installed it because hardly anybody off campus had Office 07. It helps, but every so often the check mysteriously disappears, and I have to go back in and recheck it.

This is what I meant when I said MS does some brilliant stuff, but it's for the benefit of MS, not the consumer. They've discovered that making something just a little more inconvenient will move mass numbers of people to doing it their way. On the default "Save As Office 1997-2003 document," whenever you save, a compatibility check list pops up and tells you how many features you'll lose by using the old format. The recommendation is ALWAYS to save as an Office 2007 format. I suspect that whenever you make that selection, it unchecks "save as a 97-03" document in the preferences, making Office 07 the default choice. Also, I have a grade sheet I use for every class. I've got it set up so that the student average is conditionally formated by color, depending on their grade. Whenever I save it, I get a loss of compatibility warning on the conditional formatting, even though the spreadsheet was originally developed in Office 97. After that, I get another warning box that the old format uses weaker encryption. So even after selecting save as 97-03, I get two warning boxes whenever I save (this is only on the first save after opening, after that it will save normally until I close it.)

I know you didn't really want to hear all that, but I'm pretty familiar with MS, and my frustrations are not because I don't understand how their programs work, it's because I do.

19 posted on 01/24/2009 4:27:35 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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You’re free until some corporation replaces you with an indentured servent with an H1-B visa...

Then the shift supervisor at Walmart owns you.


20 posted on 01/24/2009 7:03:30 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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