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In Davos, protectionism is a dirty word (Putin for a global putsch to topple the dollar)
Telegraph ^ | 01/31/09 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

In Davos, protectionism is a dirty word

The beggar-thy-neighbour phase has begun in earnest. "Buy American" legislation has advanced from a barely credible threat to imminent reality on Capitol Hill in just weeks.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Last Updated: 11:31PM GMT 31 Jan 2009

The House has voted for a bill that prohibits the use of foreign steel in most infrastructure projects funded by Barack Obama's $820bn (£563bn) rescue package. The Senate is drawing up plans to widen that to all manufactured goods.

This is what happens when a country loses half a million jobs a month, and when the state becomes spender-of-last-resort. Taxpayers are tribal. They do not want precious stimulus to feed the foreigner.

Even so, this Dutch auction has the disorderly feel of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff debacle in 1930, though this time the collapse of commerce – if allowed to happen – will have very different consequences for the global balance of power.

Mr Obama can veto the law, should he wish to pick a fight with Capitol Hill from day one. The world watches and waits in horror, especially in Davos.

"Everybody here is talking about protectionism. There's not a prime minister present not talking about protectionism," said Peter Sutherland, former (GATT) trade chief and now chair of BP.

Days earlier, US Treasury chief Tim Geithner called China a "currency manipulator" – meaning that Beijing holds down the yuan to boost exports. The term is turbo-charged. It implies mandatory trade sanctions under US law.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhotrade; coldwar2; davos; dollar; protectionism; putin; russia; sovietunion; tradwar
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I have known for some time that America is most dangerous when it is nearly broke. Many anti-American elements did not see it through because they got so emotionally whipped up in anti-American hatred.

Anyway they would fall fast to the bottom and serves as a cushion for America following after them.

1 posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:03 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:29 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

don’t be complacent. our enemies are not dumb.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 3:19:55 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

that’s right


4 posted on 02/01/2009 3:21:28 AM PST by myknowledge (Nothing beats Australia's F-22EMA Raptor)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
They may not be dumb, but they have their own tunnel vision just like Wall St. folks or globalists.
5 posted on 02/01/2009 3:23:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Another wacky article getting all worked up about us only buying US steel for the stimulus package. We run a huge trade deficit so this is good move. Invoking Smoot Hawley is childish


6 posted on 02/01/2009 3:27:23 AM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“They may not be dumb, but they have their own tunnel vision just like Wall St. folks or globalists.”

I would disagree. I think George Foreman though that before the rumble in the jungle. then pow, your enemy comes out punching & your plan goes to ...

don’t be complacent.


7 posted on 02/01/2009 3:30:02 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: dennisw
Justified or not, they would feel that they have to reciprocate. I think there will be some escalation back and forth.
8 posted on 02/01/2009 3:32:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I won't be complacent. I have been on them since God knows when. I was just pointing out that enemies have just as many vulnerabilities and wrong take of the situation.

The result is not so much as monolithic opposition taking on U.S. but world fractured into several pieces, and no clear dominant power. They are all at once taking on their enemies as well as domestic political turmoil. It would be quite fluid and chaotic situation for long time.

9 posted on 02/01/2009 3:38:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: dennisw

> Another wacky article getting all worked up about us only buying US steel for the stimulus package. We run a huge trade deficit so this is good move. Invoking Smoot Hawley is childish

Why would it be a good move to overpay for steel? Why would it be a good move to get other countries to put similar restrictions on American goods? Capitalism and trade have been the biggest generators of wealth. This bill aims to kill both. Good move indeed - if your aim is to bankrupt the United States.


10 posted on 02/01/2009 3:43:18 AM PST by bluejay
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One American industry after another has been fleeing the U.S. for cheap labor.

We’ve been exporting jobs much more efficiently than products.

I see nothing wrong with going back to the negotiating table with some countries as it concerns trade.


11 posted on 02/01/2009 3:46:05 AM PST by durasell
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Some good old Reagan “protectionism” would be a good thing. We can call it self preservationism.


12 posted on 02/01/2009 3:52:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: bluejay

Whatever recovery from the Bush years that Obama preached about, and the Europeans were all giddy about....is going down the drain. When he visits countries like India, France, etc...they won’t be standing to have a parade...but more likely to have a demonstration against him.


13 posted on 02/01/2009 3:54:14 AM PST by pepsionice
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I suspect that their complaint starts with an obligatory prelude, "I know it is all Bush's fault, and you are so much better than he, but still.. (laundry list of gripes inserted here.)"

In essence, a typical rationalization of their past behavior at work.:-)

14 posted on 02/01/2009 4:02:17 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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I differ from most of you here, in that I am a radical protectionist. I favor American autarky, a continental economy depending on resource exploitation and domestic production, and walls at the southern border, which I figure should be about 100 miles south of the present one, with almost all of that 100 miles being a military frontier zone.

But that's just me.

15 posted on 02/01/2009 4:06:40 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: dennisw

All Federally funded road projects require contractors to purchase US steel now. It’s been that way forever. I wouldn’t be surprised if USACE projects are the same.

Besides, how much steel is used in STD prevention education, tobacco use suppression, etc.


16 posted on 02/01/2009 4:09:10 AM PST by lfrancis
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To: durasell

> We’ve been exporting jobs much more efficiently than products.

Actually, just prior to this recession our unemployment rate was under 5%. How can you claim that we have been losing jobs? Are you claiming that without trade our unemployment would have been lower? Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Free trade has been disproportionally good for our country (probably because we have been most committed to free trade). Why would you want to kill the proverbial goose?


17 posted on 02/01/2009 4:21:57 AM PST by bluejay
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A lot of those jobs were bubble-related and not in manufacturing. Mortgage brokers and real estate agents do not make for a strong economy.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 4:26:00 AM PST by durasell
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To: pepsionice

> When he visits countries like India, France, etc...they won’t be standing to have a parade...but more likely to have a demonstration against him.

Already starting. I hope Obama is no longer maintaining any illusions that he can get more NATO forces into Afghanistan or that any country will volunteer to house Guantanamo inmates.

I know the odds of defeating this “stimulus” bill are slim, but if Republicans can pull it off it will place the new administration on the defensive for the next two years.


19 posted on 02/01/2009 4:26:12 AM PST by bluejay
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> A lot of those jobs were bubble-related and not in manufacturing. Mortgage brokers and real estate agents do not make for a strong economy.

“Not in manufacturing” = “bubble-related”? What does that mean? A biotechnology engineer is “not in manufacturing”. Is that not a good job? How about computer or communications engineer? Researcher? Personally, I would rather be a mortgage broker than work in a steel plant. At least I would like to have that choice.


20 posted on 02/01/2009 4:33:32 AM PST by bluejay
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