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ALERT: "They've Cut A Deal With Three Of Our Guys" [Byron York]
National Review ^

Posted on 02/06/2009 10:23:52 AM PST by Blue Turtle

Just got off the phone with an influential Republican senator. I asked how things stood with the stimulus, and he answered instantly, "They've cut a deal with three of our guys. They're delaying us from offering amendments. I suspect that as soon as they've got it written, they will offer it as an amendment, vote on it, and that will be it." He didn't have details on what the deal might be, but most Republicans seem to suspect it will involve relatively small cuts — and very little change in the price tag of the bill from the House version — that will be touted as a major bipartisan compromise. My senator suspects — hopes? — that no more than four Republicans will vote for the bill.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; anticonservatives; byronyork; expelthem; kickthemout; notgop; porkulus; senate; stimulus; stimuluswatch
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

DITTOS.. put me in your ‘militia’ too!


101 posted on 02/06/2009 11:01:35 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: sneakers

I’ve been trying to reach Specter’s office since 0800 and all I’ve gotten was a busy signal.

Was able to speak with a staffer at Casey’s office. Not much of a conversation, simply told him Casey should vote “no”, or else get used to being called, “the former senator Casey”.


102 posted on 02/06/2009 11:02:21 AM PST by stefeb
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To: Blue Turtle

Kick them out of the party.

No... seriously...

At least that would be the most effective strategy to maintaining a “zero republican” policy on this abomination. It would also HIGHLIGHT the level of republican opposition to this disaster.

Disclaimer: I honestly don’t care what the republicans do. I no longer consider myself one, nor do I support the liberal members of that party. My above comment is simply what I would do in that situation.


103 posted on 02/06/2009 11:02:35 AM PST by myself6 (.)
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To: lkco
Hey ... can I play too? Murray and Cantwell.

Hah!...I think we still 'win' ... (although this is a contest -- who has the worst Senators - which has no winners) but barely... What is it about the West Coast?
When did the pod people invade our land?

104 posted on 02/06/2009 11:03:21 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: IM2MAD

It IS on the Internet.

thomas.loc.gov

Bill title is H.R. 1


105 posted on 02/06/2009 11:03:22 AM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. Now they're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: Truth29

My pleasure! The rinos are hiding behind ‘busy lines’...ie phones off the hook!

Maybe we can get a message to them through the RNC!


106 posted on 02/06/2009 11:03:51 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Blue Turtle; sheik yerbouty; freekitty; TXRed; Arrowhead1952; Piquaboy; BossLady

Publish names and phone numbers and vote them out of office at the first opportunity. I also urge each of us to call them to tell them what we think of their duplicity.


107 posted on 02/06/2009 11:04:20 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: dirtymac; Mojave
McCain built his reputation on fighting against pork spending. To do otherwise would be out of character. And he is a character.

But, occasionally, McQueeg goes nuts and does something out of character, like suspending a presidential campaign to vote for Porkulus the First.

108 posted on 02/06/2009 11:04:28 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Blue Turtle

The 3 Moderate Stooges? no offense intended to Larry Curly or Moe..


109 posted on 02/06/2009 11:04:30 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Blue Turtle

Totally meaningless if they only got 3 Republicans to vote for their welfare and pork disaster.


110 posted on 02/06/2009 11:04:50 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: SMCC1

You might be right on Lugar. I just heard Obama was going to Indiana on Monday.


111 posted on 02/06/2009 11:05:20 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Blue Turtle; TADSLOS; cripplecreek
"They've Cut A Deal With Three Of Our Guys"

I wonder...did this "deal" involve revealing the location of a certain "missing" quart of strawberries?

112 posted on 02/06/2009 11:05:41 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Seaplaner

‘’And Grindsey Laham!’’

He wouldn’t dare after his performance on TV yesterday. It’s still possible he could go “for” it and then come out to say that the bill had been changed therefore, he felt compelled blah blah blah.......


113 posted on 02/06/2009 11:05:48 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: jveritas

In the scheme of the actual bill, no. This should be used as a time to cull any “Republican” of monetary support for election or re-election in the future though. I want Steele to cut them off!!


114 posted on 02/06/2009 11:06:54 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker

I think saying true would have been clearer in my last post.


115 posted on 02/06/2009 11:07:25 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: Blue Turtle

Start melting the phone lines to these Senators:

Olympia Snowe: 202-434-5344
Susan Collins: 202-224-2523
Arlen Specter: 202-224-4254
Mel Martinez: 202-224-3041


116 posted on 02/06/2009 11:07:39 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Blue Turtle

Doesn’t this still have to go to the Conference Committee to join the two bills together with more “ironing” out?


117 posted on 02/06/2009 11:08:03 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Truth29

Tell him to PUBLICLY and LOUDLY disassociate the republican party from those members who choose to aid the democrats.

That will throw a can of kerosene on the fire and attract even more attention to the disgusting tumor that is this “stimulus” bill.


118 posted on 02/06/2009 11:09:10 AM PST by myself6 (.)
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To: penelopesire
Specter Collins Snowe ......Their phones have been off the hook all day!

Have people tried calling their local offices, as well?

Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
Arlen Specter
119 posted on 02/06/2009 11:09:29 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: penelopesire

I swear, I am ready to march. I am that angry.

“Tin soldiers & Obama coming....”


120 posted on 02/06/2009 11:09:44 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Barack Odoomba, Prophet of Doom)
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To: jellybean
Wow, that would be great if Toomey could gain some momentum. I remember that he came within an eyelash of beating Specter in the primary. He almost beat a incumbent who was supported by a sitting president. Bush's support for Specter convinced me definitively that Bush wasn't one of us. That was the first time I saw Bush as an adversary.

Anyway, Bush had his plusses. Going out on a limb for conservatives in tough cases was NOT one of them. It would be great if Toomey could gain some momentum.

121 posted on 02/06/2009 11:10:17 AM PST by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Slackers!


122 posted on 02/06/2009 11:12:10 AM PST by janee (janee)
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To: SMCC1

I’ve already been told that Lugar will vote for the porkulus package. It’s common knowledge in Indiana. I sent him an email telling him not to vote for it but he doesn’t listen to the “uninformed masses.”


123 posted on 02/06/2009 11:12:12 AM PST by pctech
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To: stefeb
I’ve been trying to reach Specter’s office since 0800 and all I’ve gotten was a busy signal.

Have you tried calling sny of Senator Specter's local offices? If you get through to these offices, you can also complain about his phone being off the hook in DC.
124 posted on 02/06/2009 11:14:15 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: Billthedrill
"NAMES Tar. Feathers." TORCHES!!! PITCHFORKS!!!!! TRIALS!!!!
125 posted on 02/06/2009 11:16:57 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: pctech
I’ve already been told that Lugar will vote for the porkulus package. It’s common knowledge in Indiana. I sent him an email telling him not to vote for it but he doesn’t listen to the “uninformed masses.”

Have you called any of Lugar's offices? I was informed he hasn't taken a position (IOW's will probably vote for it).
126 posted on 02/06/2009 11:17:42 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: pctech

I just called Lugar’s office in DC and got right through. When I told the guy that answerered why I was calling and that I wanted Lugar to vote no, etc., etc., he sounded kind of disappointed.

202-224-4814


127 posted on 02/06/2009 11:18:39 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: penelopesire

I just read that Specter is the ring leader. I’ve been hitting redial for 20 minutes and nothing but a busy signal from his office. He should be tried for treason.


128 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:18 AM PST by TxAnn56
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To: cups

>>How can anybody with half a brain and a conscious vote for this crap?<<

They no longer have souls.


129 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:19 AM PST by unkus
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To: Blue Turtle

Three republicans does not a bi-partisan compromise make.


130 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:30 AM PST by linn37 (cue the circus music the democrats are back in charge)
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To: Girlene

Collins office wouldn’t say whether she plans to vote for or against the bill. I’ll assume that means she has caved.

Susan Collins
(202) 224-2523

Olympia Snowe
(202) 224-5344

Arlen Specter
(202) 224-4254

Chuck Lugar
(202) 224-4814

Ben Nelson (Democrat, Nebraska)
(202) 224-6551


131 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:32 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: lkco
Hey ... can I play too? Murray and Cantwell.

I'll see your Murray and Cantwell and raise you a Little Dick and Burris (guy who replaced the Messiah)

132 posted on 02/06/2009 11:20:46 AM PST by Marathoner (The dream: 1-20-2013, hearing "I, Sarah Heath Palin, do solumnly swear...")
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To: TxAnn56
See post 124.....try that route. Ask them why his DC phone is off the hook.
133 posted on 02/06/2009 11:23:54 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: Thank You Rush
It’s still possible he could go “for” it and then come out to say that the bill had been changed therefore, he felt compelled blah blah blah.......

Oui.

Either he was setting us up with some pre-surrender saber rattling, or he's going to try to show us what a Republican he is. (The latter being as laughable as when his buddy McCain claimed to be a "foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution").

I still predict that wobbly Mister Grahamnesty has his surrender flag at the ready; however, I would welcome some pleasent (however fake) courage under fire.

.

134 posted on 02/06/2009 11:30:25 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: cups

We know that Collins, Snowe, voinovich and Spectre are weak links in the republican side of the senate. What about Nelson, Dorgan,Who replaced Sanchez in CO, Hillary’s replacement, Bidens replacement and Burris. They have a chance to make history.


135 posted on 02/06/2009 11:31:53 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: KansasGirl

Thansk, Kansas Girl. It’s Dick Lugar, but he’s sounding more and more like Chuck Hagel, so the name change kinda fits. :-)


136 posted on 02/06/2009 11:34:46 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: TxAnn56

Yes, I do believe Specter has taken his phone off the hook. I did get through to Collins and Lugar’s DC offices. Neither office would say how they plan to vote.


137 posted on 02/06/2009 11:35:07 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Girlene

HA! Oops, you are right! LOL.


138 posted on 02/06/2009 11:35:38 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: skeeter

Well, this deal Obama’s got the better hand: there’s just no way that it makes political sense for Republican Senators from any but the most conservative states to be standing there for any length of time while Obama’s on national television every night saying “This week we lost another hundred thousand American jobs while we waited for the Senate to act.” He won’t even have to mention Republicans - he will stand there, sounding bipartisan - and let the talking heads make his point for him - being tarred as obstructionist was deadly for Republicans when “they shut down the government” during the Gingrich years and would probably even more damaging now.

So a lot of the Republican Senators who will be in front of cameras next week denouncing whatever package finally passes, and who will be appearing on Sunday talk shows to bemoan the Republican defectors who allow the bill to pass pass the following weekend, know perfectly well that those same sellouts took one for the team, allowing Republican senators in conservative states to oppose the bill without the national party paying the political price for preventing its passage.

This is just the down payment in a prolonged battle over stimulus/bailout/tax packages, depending on how the economy goes we are looking - including bailing out the financial sector, which absolutely must be propped up - at a minimum two .$2.5-$3 trillion dollars over the next two years, and if things really get out of control - which they just might - we could be looking at 5 trillion over the next few years.

So both sides are going to be digging in for the long haul.


139 posted on 02/06/2009 11:37:05 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: penelopesire

Voinivich I am hearing is the 4th one.


140 posted on 02/06/2009 11:37:25 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: Mojave
If the bill is unstoppable, the Republican should add an amendment/provision stating that the bill is not effective unless and until Obama releases his actual birth certificate...

Denial is one of the steps of grieving. It's not a pretty process, best done in private.

141 posted on 02/06/2009 11:38:35 AM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: TommyDale
Odd, because Republican amendments are being passed.

It doesn't matter. The final amendment will be in the form of a substitute for the entire bill on the floor, wiping out the original bill and all amendmenmts passed up to that point.

142 posted on 02/06/2009 11:39:11 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Blue Turtle

for what it’s worth I wrote my 2 Dem Senators


143 posted on 02/06/2009 11:39:18 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: KansasGirl

Of the two women from Maine, Collins is the least likely to vote for the stimulus package and thus needs calls like yesterday.

Don’t forget Voinivich who can NEVER be counted on to vote with Republicans.


144 posted on 02/06/2009 11:42:09 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: penelopesire

Specter for sure!


145 posted on 02/06/2009 11:42:22 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: janee

Pick up the phone, FRiend!!


146 posted on 02/06/2009 11:42:38 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
“Tin soldiers & Obama coming....”

That will happen soon enough. If you know what you said. And the timeframe Crosby, Stills and Nash came out with that song.

So far, Obama has pissed off about 10 countries and got about twice that scared as hell.

147 posted on 02/06/2009 11:43:52 AM PST by BobS
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To: PhiKapMom

But is 3 or 4 enough to give Obama the cover he needs??


148 posted on 02/06/2009 11:44:03 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: PhiKapMom
Voinivich I am hearing is the 4th one.

Agree. I got an email from McCain saying he does NOT support the bill. But, of course, he may cave.

149 posted on 02/06/2009 11:49:13 AM PST by CedarDave (Pray that during the next four years we don't lose the America we so love.)
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To: acoulterfan

Not even close to being enough cover. The ones voting are the liberal Republicans so IMHO there is no cover for ZERO.

When you get Lindsey Graham and John McCain saying this bill is full of pork and a bad bill, then we have all the Fiscal Conservatives on board which is the vast majority of what is left of Republicans in the Senate.

Should be interesting. I have the Senate telecast on mute as Dodd speaks with his forked tongue.


150 posted on 02/06/2009 11:49:21 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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