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Obama: Civil War Disguised as Politics? - ALAN KEYES
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Posted on 02/09/2009 12:20:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Sobering.


141 posted on 02/09/2009 2:09:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: EternalVigilance; All
What a load of self-pitying hucksterism.

Alan Keyes and his inner circle make their living by flitting from one cause to the next, staying just long enough to cash the checks, but never long enough to be held accountable for their utter, complete lack of accomplishments.

Anyone who dares question where the money went, or why Keyes has never won an election or influenced policy in any way whatsoever is accused (by Keyes’ paid staff) of being pro-Obama, and all criticism is met with nasty self-righteousness and a martyr complex. (see the OP and the rest of the thread for good examples)

Alan Keyes and his inner circle lied directly and repeatedly to the faces of Republican donors during the 2004 campaign, and within weeks of the election he and his cronies had packed up their carpetbags and gone on to the next scam.

I didn't think that the Illinois GOP could sink much lower, but Alan Keyes proved my wrong with his scorched-earth failure of a campaign that amounted to nothing more than an extended fundraising endeavor for Keyes and his inner circle. They took a party in disarray and picked the bones, setting it back several years in the process.

142 posted on 02/09/2009 2:12:03 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s unAmerican. And unpresidential for him to be yelling like that, trying to instigate class warfare and racial resentment. It’s like he’s trying to wage a cultural revolution in a Third World country.


143 posted on 02/09/2009 2:12:12 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

Pure fiction.


144 posted on 02/09/2009 2:15:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Cyman
I would vote for Mr Keyes for two reasons. I believe what he writes and what he speaks. Secondly, my ex father-in-law a retired educator, thought Keyes was the epitome of evil.

Two very good reasons. Another is that a body like the US senate was made for Dr. Keyes. The major complaint about politicians who allegedly represent our interests is that they are a bunch of inarticulate, namby-pamby, gutless wonders without any clear allegiances. Well, here's someone who could easily out debate any whole commitee in that house, on any topic. And he's on our side, to boot.

145 posted on 02/09/2009 2:19:10 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: EternalVigilance
Can you believe....and I'm sure you can....that in spite of Obama being everything Keyes said he was...

..we still have 'supposed' Freepers demonizing Keyes rather than Obama.

146 posted on 02/09/2009 2:20:49 PM PST by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: EternalVigilance
Are you disputing that Alan Keyes lied to the people of Illinois (in particular, those people of Illinois donating to his campaign) in telling them that he would remain in Illinois to build grassroots conservatism following the election?

Alan Keyes said he would stay in Illinois while he was soliciting donations and left the state only a few weeks after the November election. You can rationalize *why* he lied all you like, but the fact that he (and his staff) lied cannot be disputed.

147 posted on 02/09/2009 2:20:52 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

Again, your posts are nothing but a fictionalization of actual events.


148 posted on 02/09/2009 2:27:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Badeye

I’d respond to your crass comments re Keyes but others have already done so. Find the videos of Keyes vs Obama debate and you will see 1 man against the many OBots time and again. Would you be as brave? The other R cowards did nothing to support Keyes in the lion’s den.


149 posted on 02/09/2009 2:28:09 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: EternalVigilance

Simply waving your hands doesn’t make the facts go away, Mr. Chairman.

Keyes and his minions lied. You can rationalize those lies all you like, but the facts remain.


150 posted on 02/09/2009 2:31:09 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Guenevere

I believe it, and expected it when I posted this wonderful piece here. But, what they don’t realize is that for honest-minded readers these attackers are doing little but illustrating the truth Alan speaks about what he’s gone through.

They have no interest in doing what Alan Keyes does, which is get down to the brass tacks about what is ailing this republic and taking action to address it. Politics to them is only about power and personalities.


151 posted on 02/09/2009 2:31:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

The folks in Illinois had little interest in putting aside the interests of their own little fiefs to accomplish something. I spent a couple of months trying to overcome that resistance. At some point you quit trying to beat down locked doors and go somewhere where you’re wanted.

Your spin against Alan is weak and ignorant.


152 posted on 02/09/2009 2:36:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw
The blame for the entire disaster that happened in '04 belongs entirely to the 'leadership' of the Illinois Republican party. Pete Fitzgerald had that seat, and could have kept it easily, but had enough; it plain wasn't worth the trouble. Talk to Aunt Judy about yer problems with grassroots conservatism in Illinois, and whether Dr. Keyes would be a 'good fit'.
153 posted on 02/09/2009 2:37:57 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: EternalVigilance
The folks in Illinois had little interest in putting aside the interests of their own little fiefs to accomplish something.

If Keyes and his minions weren't up to the task, they shouldn't have lied to the people writing them the checks. He and his organization lied to people up to and including election day. You can rationalize why they lied, but you can't change the fact that they lied.

I spent a couple of months trying to overcome that resistance.

I know. You lied to people while taking their money, too.

At some point you quit trying to beat down locked doors and go somewhere where you’re wanted.

What a coincidence that the effort to reform the Illinois GOP only lasted as long as the campaign checks were coming in!

154 posted on 02/09/2009 2:44:34 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Seven plus One
The blame for the entire disaster that happened in '04 belongs entirely to the 'leadership' of the Illinois Republican party. Pete Fitzgerald had that seat, and could have kept it easily, but had enough; it plain wasn't worth the trouble. Talk to Aunt Judy about yer problems with grassroots conservatism in Illinois, and whether Dr. Keyes would be a 'good fit'.

Believe me, I have no love for the GOP establishment in Illinois. They wrecked the party, then opened the door for vultures like Keyes and his minions to come in to pick the bones.

Keyes and his cronies knew they were coming in to a situation where the state party was in disarray, and they used that situation to drum up donations that would purportedly be used to put the Illinois GOP back in the hands of grassroots conservatives. Quite simply, they lied, took the money, and ran.

155 posted on 02/09/2009 2:48:46 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

Fact is, you could care less about the money. It’s just an excuse. You’d criticize Alan Keyes whether he was swimming in an ocean of money or whether he took a vow of poverty and walked around in a diaper like Mahatma Gandhi.


156 posted on 02/09/2009 2:49:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

Again, that’s not the way it happened at all.


157 posted on 02/09/2009 2:50:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Seven plus One

If RINOs were as critical of their party’s leadership as they are of Alan Keyes, the GOP would once again be worth more than a bucket of warm spit.


158 posted on 02/09/2009 2:55:55 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw
....Quite simply, they lied, took the money, and ran.

It sounds like you have quite a bone to pick here. How 'bout explaining it in a little more detail. Your comments here come perilously close to plain slander, and we don't play that game here. At least I don't. A link or something will do.

159 posted on 02/09/2009 2:59:21 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: EternalVigilance

This is so typical of you, Mr. Chairman—you accuse others of lying when they cricize Keyes’ actions in Illinois, you never address the clear facts that demonstrate those lies, and when you’re backed into a corner you just say that those lies don’t actually matter.

I’ll tell you one thing, Mr. Chairman—money does matter to people who, unlike Keyes, have to work for their living. Keyes and his minions lied to the faces of those Illinois Republicans, many of whom didn’t have a lot of money to spare, and your efforts to dismiss those lies and rewrite history is disgusting.


160 posted on 02/09/2009 3:05:59 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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