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What Is Science?
AiG ^ | Roger Patterson

Posted on 02/19/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

What Is Science?

"Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic."

—Dr. Scott Todd, Kansas State University, Nature 401(6752):423, Sept. 30, 1999

What You Will Learn

Many people do not realize that science was actually developed in Christian Europe by men who assumed that God created an orderly universe. If the universe is a product of random chance or a group of gods that interfere in the universe, there is really no reason to expect order in nature. Many of the founders of the principle scientific fields, such as Bacon, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton, were believers in a recently created earth. The idea that science cannot accept a creationist perspective is a denial of scientific history...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; science
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To: count-your-change

So is it correct to conclude that if one does not adhere to the literal truth of the bible then one is not a Christian?


121 posted on 02/19/2009 6:11:19 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

If you don’t have an answer say so but a question on something else is not an answer.


122 posted on 02/19/2009 6:46:59 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Buck W.

“What aspect of Christianity does evolution conflict with?”

Genesis. Although Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 conflict with each other as well.


123 posted on 02/19/2009 6:48:10 PM PST by Rhino371
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To: Rhino371

Christianity is not defined by Genesis.


124 posted on 02/19/2009 7:00:50 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Rhino371
Although Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 conflict with each other as well.

No, they don't. They just fill in some detail from Chapter One.

125 posted on 02/19/2009 7:08:23 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
No, they don't. They just fill in some detail from Chapter One.

Genesis 2 paraphrased. God found Adam lonely with companion so he created animals and brought them each before Adam to 'evaluate' as companions. Finding animals lacking for Adam, God created Eve. Why didn't God know that Adam was needing an Eve and create her at the same time as Adam instead of putting Adam through torture? What lesson was God providing in this?

126 posted on 02/19/2009 7:10:47 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: count-your-change

If you don’t have an answer say so statement about an earlier post is not an answer.


127 posted on 02/19/2009 7:12:28 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

Where do you get that God was torturing Adam by having him name the animals and showing him that they didn’t provide for him adequate companionship?


128 posted on 02/19/2009 7:18:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: r9etb
When I speculate about ID, I can point to the existence of a money-making industry based on the principle. It is a fact.

And simultaneously highlighting the difference between human design and design via descent with modification.

We already have a working theory that explains the history of life. If you intend to replace or supplement that theory, you need to provide something new that can be tested.

So far, claims that certain complex mechanisms could not have evolved incrementally have been whittled away. There rather impressive news on the flagellum developed recently. Seems there are lots of partial flagella in living organisms when you start looking for them.

The biggest flaw in ID is that it doesn't suggest looking for them.

129 posted on 02/19/2009 7:18:46 PM PST by js1138
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To: ColdWater; metmom

holding-breath placemaker.


130 posted on 02/19/2009 7:19:06 PM PST by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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To: ColdWater

If you wish to carry Buck’s water foe him perhaps your moniker should be CarryWater instead of ColdWater.


131 posted on 02/19/2009 7:19:44 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: demshateGod
“Isn’t this the essence of ID?”

No.

The essence of ID:

1. Life on earth originated billions of years ago in a pond of scum.

2. Man evolved from this early life over a span of hundreds of millions of years.

3. God may be dead since there is no evidence of his existence over the last few hundred million years.

132 posted on 02/19/2009 7:21:35 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: metmom
Where do you get that God was torturing Adam by having him name the animals and showing him that they didn’t provide for him adequate companionship?

Uh, trying out all the animial to see if they could suit him was NOT torture? Imagine being presented with millions of animals, one by one and, uh ... , never mind.

133 posted on 02/19/2009 7:26:25 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: metmom

“No, they don’t. They just fill in some detail from Chapter One.”

In Gen 1 Animals are made a day before man. In Gen 2 they are made after man.


134 posted on 02/19/2009 7:27:28 PM PST by Rhino371
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To: count-your-change
If you wish to carry Buck’s water foe him perhaps your moniker should be CarryWater instead of ColdWater.

If you don't want to or can't answer the question just say so. Don't jump on me!

135 posted on 02/19/2009 7:28:12 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
Why didn't God know that Adam was needing an Eve ...

God knew that Adam was needing Eve. How do you expect someone to be able to answer you seriously when you start with false premises like that?

136 posted on 02/19/2009 7:28:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
And the most famous modern pioneers in science almost all have confidence in the science of geology, astronomy, biology, physics, plate tech-tonics, bio-geography, etc, etc.

Operational science in biology is based upon the theory, and the theory of creating useful features from random generation of genetic diversity is used to create novel enzymes for industrial functions.

Nobody is stopping Creationists from doing their thing. Unfortunately their “thing” is mostly pretzel work apologetics, laughable PR releases, and a “critique” of real scientists doing real science.

Biology has never been a more productive field in terms of research and application (industry, food, medicine), NONE of it from Creationist universities. Not many test tubes in Dr. Dino's basement.

137 posted on 02/19/2009 7:28:17 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: ColdWater

“Uh, trying out all the animial to see if they could suit him was NOT torture? Imagine being presented with millions of animals, one by one and, uh ... , never mind.”

I wonder why god didn’t already know what would please Adam?

Oh I remember, its a myth from bronze aged Nomads.


138 posted on 02/19/2009 7:29:21 PM PST by Rhino371
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To: js1138

“The biggest flaw in ID is that it doesn’t suggest looking for them. “

I sometimes refer to ID as “educated surrender”.


139 posted on 02/19/2009 7:29:51 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom
God knew that Adam was needing Eve. How do you expect someone to be able to answer you seriously when you start with false premises like that?

Then why was Adam presented all the animals first? What was the moral to that story?

140 posted on 02/19/2009 7:30:19 PM PST by ColdWater
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