Posted on 02/19/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
What Is Science?
"Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic."
—Dr. Scott Todd, Kansas State University, Nature 401(6752):423, Sept. 30, 1999
What You Will Learn
Many people do not realize that science was actually developed in Christian Europe by men who assumed that God created an orderly universe. If the universe is a product of random chance or a group of gods that interfere in the universe, there is really no reason to expect order in nature. Many of the founders of the principle scientific fields, such as Bacon, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton, were believers in a recently created earth. The idea that science cannot accept a creationist perspective is a denial of scientific history...
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Say what? Answers to your questions are readily available to you online. You have much to learn regarding the process of getting a real paper published in a real journal.
Thanks for once again displaying you're unable to adequately explain your untenable positions, aptly named whattajoke.
Why do creationists confuse (or deliberately misrepresent) “lie” and “allegory”? Did Jesus lie when he used parables?
Five years on the beaver might explain Darwin's lifelong frail health. He was just wore out.
I wanted the answer from you to that question. I said if you don't want to answer then say so and I would not be beckoning you for a response.
Can you answer the questions?
The Bible doesn't say how but obviously Adam found a something lacking in the animals.
I will make him a helper fit for [5] him.” 19 Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed [6] every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam [7] there was not found a helper fit for him.
Citation please.
This is another example of evos demanding the impossible by setting up conditions that they know no one can meet and then deriding those who can't meet them for their failure.
Talk about intellectually dishonest.
Yup...and isn't it funny these scientists that aren't "real" attend or teach or graduated from MIT, Johns Hopkins, Princeton? One really wonders if whattajoke thinks these are "real" institutions of higher learning.
Frankly, I wouldn't call it intellectual dishonesty so much as honestly devoid of intellect.
No doubt referring to Dover.
Questions to Buck W. that have as of yet been unanswered....
Post 94: Sources? Or are we just to take your word for it as fact?
Post 95: All? Sources? Or are we to just take your word for it as fact?
Sources? Or are we to just take your word for it as fact?
You’re pretty liberal with the blanket statements. Want to back them up sometime? Or just stereotype everyone?
Post 109: Which church?
All people? Everywhere?
You know that to be a fact?
No sources provided as of yet for any of the statements made.
I know what happens to creationists who don’t provide sources and it isn’t pretty. But evos are know for double standards. They don’t seem to think that the requirements they demand of others, they need to meet themselves.
Really, and when did that happen? How is it that scientists determined the center of that which has no borders? Conclusively.
Your bolding alright.
I just checked out about a dozen English translations of that verse and cannot figure out where you came up with that one.
That’s not all the animals on the planet.
I asked,
“The question on literalness is another one by its self. So why should I have not responded with Biblical references?”.
And your question is?
” They aren’t just satisfied with opting their kids out of the creation section of origins in schools, they have to sue the schools into submission to have evolution only taught. “
Public schools can’t teach your religion it is illegal. And you don’t want them to since then school would have to present both sides, and trust me you don’t want them proving the bible is full of lies in school. Take your kid to church if you want them to learn your mythology.
Anything that doesn't tow the hardline evo position is by default dismissed as not *real* science and not even given any consideration.
This is another example of evos demanding the impossible by setting up conditions that they know no one can meet and then deriding those who can't meet them for their failure.
Talk about intellectually dishonest.
Yup...and isn't it funny these scientists that aren't "real" attend or teach or graduated from MIT, Johns Hopkins, Princeton? One really wonders if whattajoke thinks these are "real" institutions of higher learning.
Frankly, I wouldn't call it intellectual dishonesty so much as honestly devoid of intellect.
Are you REALLY looking for sources that geocentrism was a belief enforced by the church 500+ years ago? REALLY? Denial of science is bad enough, but denial of relatively recent history is delicious desperation.
Now, for your homework, look up Galileo and his forced confession in 1615 (or thereabouts) in which he saved his own life by concurring with scripture-derived geocentrism.
All the lawsuits filed to force creation out of the schools.
We can ask a question here and any evo who wants can answer it.
“Would you support the opt out option for students in the public schools in regards to teaching creation instead of an outright ban on teaching creation in science classes? One that would allow creation to be taught along with evolution but not requiring that children attend?”
I'd also suggest that as someone who's been here less than a month, it would be a good idea not to start bomb-throwing too early.
That is not what he said. He said the earth is not at the center. That has been determined.
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