[Badeye]

The Velvet mafia is gonna gitcha....(chuckle)

[anniegetyourgun]

"I just don’t think God’s instructions to these ancients was specifically applicable to men who set up housekeeping in West Hollywood or the Castro."

And therein is the original lie...."Hast God said?" When will people wake up and realize that their decision to selectively determine what God meant means that they have made for themselves a new god. One that looks like them. In fact, it is them. Hence, their god is too small.

This guy is of his father, the devil....so he should not wonder why his daughter follows along on the same wide path - which leads to destruction.

[thefrankbaum]

You want to disestablish marriage as a legally regulated institution entirely? As a libertarian, I’m with you.

How exactly do you deal with issues of inheritance, medical decisions, etc.?

[RinaseaofDs]

Well done. This is fabulous. You truly are a Libertarian.

The examination of the language of this entire issue deserved examination, and you provided such a reasoned analysis of it. All I can say is thank you for this contribution, and its a huge reason I value this forum so.

[KarlInOhio]

As Lewis Carrol said in Through the Looking Glass: 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.'

Using your new definition of "sex" I would suppose that a man who had a vasectomy or a woman who had a tubal ligation, a hysterectomy or even wasn't close enough to ovulation to result in pregnancy wouldn't be able to have sex either.

You are using your redefinition of words much as a squid uses its ink: to cloud the water and make capturing the issue much more difficult.

[VRWCmember]

Interesting perspective, but changing the definitions of sexual to only those encounters where the pairing of gametes is possible is just a bunch of linguistic gymnastics. I suppose by your definition that anyone who has had a vasectomy doesn’t have sex anymore but just exchanges bodily fluids since there are no gametes in the transmission.

[max americana]

The queers will straighten up once they burn my church down.

[gondramB]

>>There is no such thing as “homo” sexuality, unless by that term you are referring to sexual relations between two members of the species homo sapiens. <<

I think positions like this along with claiming there are not very many homosexuals or bisexuals undercut the debate.

Claiming they don’t exist or are rare just makes to person making the argument less believable, whatever else they are saying.

[PetroniusMaximus]

Mr. Schulman,

While I appreciate the logical coherence of your argument, I wish to make a suggestion to you.

Read Genesis chapter 19 carefully and compare it to the current situation. There is something about the “andromen” that exceeds a simple desire to live an “alternative lifestyle”.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019%20;&version=47;

[swilliams53]

That title has some double entendre’s apparently. I figure if all gays would straighten up, no one would be gay.

[SuziQ]

Since males who are attracted only to other males are sexually abstinent, they are perfect candidates for the Roman Catholic priesthood, which requires their priests to be celibate – that is, to refrain from marriage.

Mr. Schulman is straining credulity to only consider as sexual, those acts which are, or are designed to be, pro-creative. Seems terribly silly to me for someone to try to push that notion. If an action involves the use of ANY sexual organ, it it a sexual act, plain and simple.

Because of this notion, he's twisting the meaning of celibacy. Yes, one definition is someone who remains unmarried, but the definition used by the Church in dealing with priests, or men and women in the committed religious life means not having sexual relations with anyone, whether those relations are pro-creative, or not.

[Lurker]

Thanks for the cogent, well written article.

L

[Old Professer]

“...my firmly grasping sharp ideological nettles.”

That’s hysterically funny.

[steve-b]

What do you make of the distinction between “marriage” (religious) and “civil union” (legal)? That would at least seem to accomodate the fact that the government (or, ideally, other institutions filling its current role in keeping the peace and settling disputes) has a different role than religion (specifically, that the former has obligations to be just and evenhanded that are not binding on the latter).

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[DBeers]

“Since males who are attracted only to other males are sexually abstinent, they are perfect candidates for the Roman Catholic priesthood, which requires their priests to be celibate – that is, to refrain from marriage. Likewise, lesbians – being sexually abstinent – are perfect candidates to be nuns, since their “marriage” to Christ need never be physically consummated. For some reason I’ve never been able to fathom, neither the Roman Catholic hierarchy nor the activist movements for andromen and lesbians are comfortable with this obvious lifestyle perfection.

And, in my opinion, the unwillingness of “gay” organizations to stand up for Catholic priests when they are caught engaging in non-sexual acts with other males is the sheerest hypocrisy and poltroonery.”

First off -your Clintonesque parsing of meaning in regard to sexual activity ONLY pertaining to procreation is what keeps most of your arguments afloat. Take away this different meaning of is and your house of cards falls apart...

Lastly, as to Catholic Priests. Take a gander at “Concerning the Criteria for the Discernment of Vocations with Regard to Persons with Homosexual Tendencies in View of Their Admission to the Seminary and to Holy Orders.” (link follows) and correct your flawed perspective:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/ccehomosex.HTM

[RichInOC]

Why gay rights activists need to straighten up

In order to avoid blunt-force trauma to the brain?

[jwalsh07]

I’ve been a libertarian my entire adult life. Libertarianism, as I’ve been an apologist for it, is a philosophy promoting individual rights, civil liberties, and the freedom to have manifest destiny over one’s own life and property. I am opposed to the government telling people what they can do with their minds and bodies. I am consistent on this whether the issue is consensual intimate relations between adults, or the freedom to self-medicate and self-entertain oneself using the agricultural or pharmaceutical product of one’s choice, or the responsibility of parents to choose what their children are taught about how the human race came to be, or whether it’s regarding the decision of a woman not to carry a fetus to term in her womb.

The last sentence just makes you another libertarian fraud and pretender. No aggression except on the weakest members of the species homo sapiens.

Pathetic.

[Charles Rayney]

Homosex is a sick and vile perversion, and it’s an utter shame that we are even having this national discussion.

It’s an even bigger shame that the courts are likely to overturn my vote banning this travesty.

I personally will never understand why you libertarians want to remove a beautiful institution like marriage from our national landscape. The legal rights connected to marriage make very little sense apart from the institution itself.

It is more than a merely religious issue, although it certainly has religious aspects to it. Fortunately, this is a Christian nation and I am okay with religious concepts within my government.

It will be an utter shame when liberals and libertarians remove all vestiges of Christ from our government

[GSWarrior]

I started to read your book, The Rainbow Cadenza, but couldn’t finish it. I can’t remember the specifics, but I cast it aside where the heroine watches a youngish woman being raped and sort of gets turned on by the act.