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Why Darwin was wrong about the tree of life (Creationists have been saying this for decades!)
New Scientist ^ | January 21, 2009 | Graham Lawton

Posted on 02/24/2009 6:37:38 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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The tree-of-life concept was absolutely central to Darwin's thinking, equal in importance to natural selection...Without it the theory of evolution would never have happened. The tree also helped carry the day for evolution.

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For much of the past 150 years, biology has largely concerned itself with filling in the details of the tree. "For a long time the holy grail was to build a tree of life," says Eric Bapteste, an evolutionary biologist at the Pierre and Marie Curie University in Paris, France. A few years ago it looked as though the grail was within reach. But today the project lies in tatters, torn to pieces by an onslaught of negative evidence. Many biologists now argue that the tree concept is obsolete and needs to be discarded. "We have no evidence at all that the tree of life is a reality," says Bapteste. That bombshell has even persuaded some that our fundamental view of biology needs to change...

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheisticmorons; christianmythology; christianmyths; creation; creeation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; mythology; myths; religiousmyths; superstition; treeoflife
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To: allmendream

Matthew 10:16
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.


141 posted on 02/24/2009 2:52:30 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

And you thought adding “Dr” in front of a lawyers name was being “Shrewd as snakes”?

Not likely.

Your interpretation of that scripture has you acting as “shrewd as a dove” and “as innocent as a snake”.

Moreover Matthew 10:16 is no excuse for lying.


142 posted on 02/24/2009 2:54:59 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Psalm 74:18
Remember how the enemy has mocked you, O Lord, how foolish people have reviled your name.


143 posted on 02/24/2009 3:01:28 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

So now you think YOU are the Lord?

I am mocking YOU and your dishonesty.

You mock the Lord by taking his name for yourself and then being as “shrewd as a dove and as honest as a serpent”.


144 posted on 02/24/2009 3:08:25 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Numbers 25:5 (b)
...put to death those of your men who have joined in worshiping the Baal of Peor.


145 posted on 02/24/2009 3:11:08 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

How about

“do not bear false witness”

Forgot that one in your zeal to pass off a lawyer as a doctor?


146 posted on 02/24/2009 3:13:24 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

“You shall have no other gods before Me.”


147 posted on 02/24/2009 3:16:37 PM PST by Cedric
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To: allmendream

Dr. Luke 4:8
Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.


148 posted on 02/24/2009 3:31:01 PM PST by Cedric
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To: allmendream

Dr. Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.


149 posted on 02/24/2009 3:59:36 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

Are you that guy I see on the corner in downtown SF, screaming bible verses?


150 posted on 02/24/2009 4:08:32 PM PST by Wacka
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To: Cedric
But far from “overcoming” your “enemies” you fell into the trap of the easy lie and the loss of credibility.

You were as shrewd as a dove and as innocent as a serpent.

And now you are admitting that nothing you say can be taken seriously as you feel free to lie to those you view as “snakes” or “scorpions”.

THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.

Last time I checked that didn't come with addendum's and provisions.

151 posted on 02/24/2009 4:19:23 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: ColdWater; allmendream; Cedric

==When did Mr. NM get promoted to DR?

That would be Juris Doctor. I think it was an honest mistake. I Googled Cedric’s quote, and the first page that came up was a page entitled “Scientists Speak About Evolution.” Norman Macbeth’s name somehow found its way into a list of quotes by mostly scientists (I noticed a couple of other quotes by non-scientists as well) pointing out the many paradoxes of Darwinian evolution. I have made the mistake of assuming certain quotes were from scientists, only to find out later that they came from laymen, albeit very informed laymen. Also, Norman Macbeth wrote a book on Darwinian evolution, so perhaps he was mistaken for a scientist. Needless to say, the fact that that quote was mixed in with a page of scientific quotes was sloppy on the part of the website owner. I will email him to let him know that his webpage is getting his fellow creationists into trouble with FR’s trigger happy Evos.


152 posted on 02/24/2009 4:22:41 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream; Cedric

==Moreover Matthew 10:16 is no excuse for lying.

Unless I’m missing something, you have not caught Cedric in a lie. Did you provide a link demonstrating that Norman Macbeth is a lawyer, or is Cedric just supposed to take your word for it?

And Cedric, don’t be bashful, I looked up NM’s quote, and that website you most likely took his quote from has him listed as a scientist in error. Just admit you made a mistake and move on. It’s the right thing to do, and if you don’t, these guys will never let you live it down.


153 posted on 02/24/2009 4:30:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Cedric

Cedric will not provide his source for the quote so I am forced to assume that HE added the “Dr.” to Norman Macbeth’s name. Either he is utilizing dishonest and disreputable sources, or he is dishonest and disreputable himself.

Seeings as how he is attempting a scriptural justification for lying, I am pretty sure it is the latter not the former.

Either way Cedric got caught furthering a lie, and as he will not reveal his source, and attempted a Biblical justification for lies; one must conclude that truth is not of paramount importance to this poster.

Additionally I just have to laugh at the fallacy of appeal to authority with a made up authority with fake credentials tacked onto their name.

Creationists truly have no shame.


154 posted on 02/24/2009 4:38:33 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream; Cedric

I suspect that Cedric tacked Dr. onto the name because he assumed NM is a scientist, which most people assume = Ph.D. = Dr. And I have full confidence that Cedric is going to admit his mistake and apologize. Having said that, in all the time I have been on FR, I can’t recall a single Evo (besides you, on one occasion) admitting to their mistakes. In fact, in one case, I demonstated that an Evo was factually wrong, and the Evo kept posting the same error, which had by then become a lie. Should I end this reply with “Evos truly have no shame”?


155 posted on 02/24/2009 4:47:12 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Cedric
"The science of evolution is not dependent upon fossils

Ya, I know. Nor the geologic column, nor carbon 14, nor the 2nd law of thermodynamics, nor mathematics, nor genetics, nor honest evidence of any kind, nor integrity."

Best short-form summation of Evolutionist apologetics I've ever read!

156 posted on 02/24/2009 6:18:21 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: demshateGod
“Evolution is not compatible with Christianity...”
*Snicker*
157 posted on 02/24/2009 9:57:17 PM PST by Fichori (If YOU Evolved, YOUR Unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are VOID)
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To: Sacajaweau
“P.S. I'm 93 hours into quiting smoking. Brain overwrought!!”
Good for you!

Stick with it!
158 posted on 02/24/2009 9:59:56 PM PST by Fichori (If YOU Evolved, YOUR Unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are VOID)
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To: Rebel_Ace
“Just seems a tad off topic for daily postings on a POLITICAL forum.” [excerpt]
Where to start.

Statement by [Jim Robinson] the founder of Free Republic

Jim Robinson on Evolution, Creation, and the Constitution.

That should get ya started.
159 posted on 02/24/2009 10:08:04 PM PST by Fichori (If YOU Evolved, YOUR Unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are VOID)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“Let’s let them speak for themselves, shall we?:” [excerpt]
Oyeee-Ouchy!
160 posted on 02/24/2009 10:14:36 PM PST by Fichori (If YOU Evolved, YOUR Unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are VOID)
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