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Porn, Pot and Abortion
Exclusive to FreeRepublic ^ | 2/27/2009 | DouglasKC

Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC

Porn, Pot and Abortion

You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.

The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.

"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.

Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.

Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".

But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.

I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.

Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.

Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.

What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.

And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.

They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.

John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.

Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; angrydopers; anslingersghost; blackjazzmusicians; bloggersandpersonal; channelingharry; culturewars; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; moralabsolutes; pot
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To: ArrogantBustard

KNOCK IT OFF! That applies to both of you.


61 posted on 02/27/2009 9:18:19 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Enterprise
Is there such a thing as medicinal alcohol?

My Grandfather had a "prescription" for whiskey when he was in the hospital.

62 posted on 02/27/2009 9:18:28 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Admin Moderator
He didn’t mash abuse. We spotted this one on our own - the mods keep an eye on drug war threads, there is a high probability of finding personal attacks. [emphasis mine, mkj] Knock off the personal attacks and name-calling or leave this thread.

The mods better check their eyesight then, as they missed a real whopper of a personal attack at #35.
63 posted on 02/27/2009 9:18:51 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: DouglasKC
Drug War case law is being used to "regulate" RKBA out of existence. The Nanny State "war on porn" is being used to shut down talk radio.

The only one I agree with is the one that has a non-consenting victim in the equation. Murder statutes are rightly a States issue, not a Federal one. Over turn Roe V Wade and de-fund Planned Parenthood.

How about fighting on the side of Freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility some time? Yes, even the parts of "freedom" that you personally find "icky".

64 posted on 02/27/2009 9:18:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: Admin Moderator
I see that the "bong" post and the "llama" post are both still up.

Perhaps it would be best to yank both of them.

65 posted on 02/27/2009 9:20:06 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
What if it's consensual?
66 posted on 02/27/2009 9:20:27 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Prokopton

Your grandfather and I would get along just fine.


67 posted on 02/27/2009 9:20:39 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I have no problem with a city banning dope as long as other cities can allow it. Local governance is how this should be handled, if a community wants to allow people to smoke pot they should, those who don’t agree can move to a city that is a more restrictive community of like minded adults.


68 posted on 02/27/2009 9:21:01 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: mkjessup
The mods better check their eyesight then, as they missed a real whopper of a personal attack at #35.

In case you don't grasp the meaning behind the comment, it is a play on the 'When did you stop beating your wife' routine. Raping llamas is clearly a continuation of that absurdity - if you think he is seriouly calling you a rapist, you need to go to Wal Mart and get a case of irony. So if you don't want that kind of retort, don't run around calling others 'dopers' with no evidence of such.

Now, knock it off and debate your position.

69 posted on 02/27/2009 9:22:22 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ArrogantBustard
Baloney. Prohibition failed because Joe Kennedy, Al Capone, et al. found they could make lots of money violating it.

They made money because the possession of alcohol was still legal, and because law enforcement was banned from inspecting establishments for the sole purpose of finding alcohol.

70 posted on 02/27/2009 9:22:59 AM PST by Moonman62 (I didn't compromise my soul to be popular. -- Jimmy Carter)
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To: ArrogantBustard

See post 65


71 posted on 02/27/2009 9:23:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: mkjessup
lolol Come on. Is seemed like a perfectly resonable question to me!

lololol

Just kidding.

But in all seriousness.... We need another one of these threads. For Liberaltarians.

72 posted on 02/27/2009 9:24:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Comment #73 Removed by Moderator

To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
In case you don't grasp the meaning behind the comment, it is a play on the 'When did you stop beating your wife' routine. Raping llamas is clearly a continuation of that absurdity - if you think he is seriouly calling you a rapist, you need to go to Wal Mart and get a case of irony. So if you don't want that kind of retort, don't run around calling others 'dopers' with no evidence of such. Now, knock it off and debate your position.

Sounds like one moderator needs a trip to Wal Mart too, for a case of objectivity.

The fact is, I made a humorous comment at #31 about the poster's 'bong', nothing more nothing less. His response was way out of proportion, and your carrying water for him by justifying what he posted doesn't wash.

We'll bump this up to JimRob's level and see what he thinks.
74 posted on 02/27/2009 9:27:26 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: TheKidster
Too be realistic it should only get as high as the state level and most likely would. Would be a states right issue because the federal gov’t is not empowered.

This was the major reason I supported Fred Thompson. He continually referred to constitution and state rights. Constantly said we need 50 ideas to handle problems not one idea in dc. But most conservatives are like liberals and want one solution.

75 posted on 02/27/2009 9:28:38 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: mkjessup
The fact is, I made a humorous comment at #31 about the poster's 'bong', nothing more nothing less. His response was way out of proportion, and your carrying water for him by justifying what he posted doesn't wash.

Go right ahead. He's in the building. I'll notify him myself.

76 posted on 02/27/2009 9:29:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

You do that.


77 posted on 02/27/2009 9:29:48 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: Moonman62

And now ... the possession of cocaine, methamphetamine, etc. is NOT legal ... and the latter yet Jose Kennedy and Al Caponez still manage to make boatloads of money on the sale and distribution thereof.


78 posted on 02/27/2009 9:31:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

That’s why I was a Frederalist also, too bad he slept through his “campaign”. I was really disappointed when he bowed out before I had a chance to actually vote for him in the primary.


79 posted on 02/27/2009 9:31:41 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Dangit..

... And yet the latter-day Jose Kennedy ...


80 posted on 02/27/2009 9:32:17 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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