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Elect Obama, Get Embryonic Stem Cells (Obama puts YOUR tax dollars to work)
CEH ^ | March 8, 2009

Posted on 03/09/2009 8:30:09 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Elect Obama, Get Embryonic Stem Cells

March 8, 2009 — President Obama is about to fulfill one of his campaign promises: lifting restrictions on creating new embryonic stem cell lines (see Fox News).  The question now is, are they really needed?  They have yet to show any successes, while adult stem cells are enjoying an accelerating boom of amazing discoveries that could provide hope for some of mankind’s worst disorders.
(Note: ESC = embryonic stem cells, ASC = adult stem cells).

  1. Muscular dystrophy:  Children and adults plagued by the muscle-wasting malady of muscular dystrophy may now have hope thanks to adult stem cells.  PhysOrg and Science Daily both reported advances in treatment in mice that may soon be applicable to humans, using bone marrow stem cells.  The treatments, being studied at University of New South Wales in Australia, may also be applicable to regrowing tissues of the liver, pancreas and brain.
  2. Organ regeneration:  Stanford researchers are making progress generating whole organs from ASC.  They are finding that with the proper scaffold and an oxygen supply, adult stem cells from fat tissues and bone marrow can be coaxed into growing new organs.  “In the near future, the researchers believe that the stem cells in the tissue could be induced to become an internal, living factory of healthy, specialized cells churning out proteins missing in people with conditions such as hemophilia or diabetes,” the article encouraged.  “In the long run, they hope to encourage the cells to become entire transplantable organs such as livers or pancreases.”

  3. Clean induction:  Viruses are no longer necessary as vectors to induce somatic cells into pluripotency.  A major advance announced in Science Daily has been made at Mt. Sinai Hospital that “accelerates stem cell technology and provides a road map for new clinical approaches to regenerative medicine.”  Dr. Andreas Nagy, the lead researcher said, “This new method of generating stem cells does not require embryos as starting points and could be used to generate cells from many adult tissues such as a patient’s own skin cells.”
ESC is not completely without promise. 

Science Daily reported that embryonic stem cells are being studied to see if they can grow neurons.  This may have application to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig’s disease, the disorder that afflicts Stephen Hawking.  The work appears to be very preliminary.  Though they were able to tease ESC-derived products to mimic properties of diseased motor neurons, no cells have been transplanted into animals or humans.
    In a letter to Nature this week,1 however, a researcher at University of Basel urged caution on human trials with ESC-derived neurons.  Injection will be difficult, and the results hard to assess, he said. 

We don’t know yet if the treatment will make matters worse.  His final paragraph warned,

Given the controversy over the use of human ES cells in some countries, it is to be hoped that the triumphant announcement of the approval of this clinical trial will not prove to be a prime-time setback.  Regenerative medicine using human ES cells is an exciting prospect, but the field still needs time to mature.  The primary concern of scientists involved in stem-cell research is not to satisfy the short-term expectations of analysts and investors, but to improve public health with the help of innovative, safe treatments.

Speaking of safety, a medical doctor had some horror stories to tell of cancerous tumors resulting from ESC treatments.  In “Why Embryonic Stem Cells Are Obsolete,” in US News, Dr. Bernadine Healy said the setbacks using embryonic cells, and the successes of ASC and iPS render ESC research superfluous.  She reminds readers that Bush did not create a new policy, but merely reaffirmed a decision Clinton had made preventing federal money for creation of new lines of human embryos for research purposes.  “Reversing the executive orders of two prior presidents on embryo creation, which even the Congress has been unwilling to tackle, is a far bigger issue than lifting the ban on the use of IVF embryos slated for destruction,” she concluded.  “Obama stands for transparency, and it’s important for him to make sure the public understands his decision, including that all stem cells are not the same or created equally.”

1.  Yves Barde, “Caution urged in trial of stem cells to treat spinal-cord injury,” Nature 458, 29 (5 March 2009) | doi:10.1038/458029a.
Why are scientists continuing to demand ESC when ASC appears to provide all the benefits for eliminating human suffering, without the ethical and moral problems?  Why do they demand the government feed their lust with taxpayer dollars?  There seems to be more than logic going on here.  One plausible reason is that they want to assert authority over what constitutes science.  They don’t want any government telling them what they can or cannot do.  And since the pro-life and religious crowd has been standing in their way, their pride may be motivating them to give their old enemies another bullying shove.

President Bush was persistently criticized for “politicizing science” (which means, in their tortured logic, exercising his constitutional power over what taxpayer money can be spent on).  Remember that scientists were never forbidden from working on ESC research; the only restriction was on federal funding for new stem cell lines.  They had unlimited access to ESC lines from before 2001, and could use any private funds they wanted for cutting up human embryos (see NIH Stem Cell Policy document).

Start the violins playing; it was just too inconvenient for researchers to keep two separate accounts, one for their federal funds, and one for their private funds.  They are clamoring like every other irresponsible business these days for a federal bailout.

Bush tried to explain why he did not feel it was appropriate to use taxpayer money to fund research that many found morally objectionable.  For that, he endured scathing criticism from scientific elitists for “mixing politics with science.”  Does the hideous unrighteousness of this begin to sink in?  Of course federally-funded science is political.  If taxpayer money is going to be spent on research, the people paying the bill have the right, through their elected representatives, to have a say about it.  Big Science treats it like a divine right to dictate to the rest of us what they want to do with our money.  That’s why Feyerabend saw science as a threat to democracy; you have these oligarchs telling the populace what to do, hiding their agenda behind incomprehensible jargon.

If ESC research were so promising of success, you can be sure corporate sponsors would be lined up to support it.  Instead, Big Science politicized it by shmoozing political hacks to write initiatives wooing the voters in California and Michigan to cough up billions of dollars for ESC institutes.  These were promoted with misleading ads suggesting that miracle cures were right around the corner.  Commercials played on their heartstrings with disabled celebrities making it sound like cutting up human embryos was the epitome of compassion.  After the damage was done (a $3 billion obligation on top of California’s economic meltdown), we are told that any treatments may be years, or decades away, if at all.  Now that Obama is enthusiastically caving in to the scientific oligarchy, do California voters get their money back?

Citizens must be alert to what is going on.  This issue is much bigger than promises about miracle cures.  It bears on questions of the nature of human life and the nature of science.  The public is rapidly losing a voice in these vital issues as politicians raid their pocketbooks.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; adult; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; catholic; cells; christianity; corruption; creation; embryonic; evolution; intelligentdesign; moralabsolutes; obama; obamatruthfile; prolife; scotus; socialism; stem; taxes

1 posted on 03/09/2009 8:30:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 03/09/2009 8:31:08 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Obama also signed some kind of order protecting “science” from “politics” at the same time.

What a sick joke!

There is no science that shows any benefit from embryonic stem cells, and there was no ban on private stem cell research.

Also, the bastardization of science takes place on the left.

The “global warming” goons, as a case in point.

3 posted on 03/09/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GodGunsGuts
More rubbishy ideas from the Obama faction.

The latest U.S. News and World Report had this article by Bernadine Healy, MD: Why Embryonic Stem Cells Are Obsolete.

Here's the money quote:

"In fact, during the first six weeks of Obama's term, several events reinforced the notion that embryonic stem cells, once thought to hold the cure for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and diabetes, are obsolete."

(Healy is U.S.News & World Report's health editor and author of the magazine’s On Health column, and the former head of the National Institutes of Health, the American Red Cross, and the College of Medicine and Public Health at Ohio State University.)

The push for strip-mining non-consenting human subjects (including our already-begotten children, teenage boys with head traumas, medically dependent adults) for cells, tissues and organs is strictly a question of hubris: certain researchers saying "We want to do it because we can, to show that OUR projects are never again to be limited by ethics or by considerations of mere human dignity."

These people have decayed, kevorkianized consciences.

4 posted on 03/09/2009 8:38:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I was hitchhiking the other day, and a hearse stopped. I said, 'No thanks - I'm not going that far.')
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To: Admin Moderator

I format in Firefox, and for some reason the first line of my posts keep coming up red. Could someone fix this for me, and tell me how to prevent it in the future? Thanks—GGG

5 posted on 03/09/2009 8:43:54 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Obama says other countries could be getting ahead of us in ESCR.

Other countries HAVE been funding ESCR. How well are they doing?

6 posted on 03/09/2009 8:54:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Barack's legacy - record breaking spending resulting in record breaking waste.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Since Obama has decided to go down this path, why not take it even further and start deadly experimentation on human babies?

I'm not getting the difference.

7 posted on 03/09/2009 8:54:40 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: GodGunsGuts

This scum Ghoul Obama had the nerve to say “this is the change all scientists have been waiting for”

I am tellin’ ya folks.........

8 posted on 03/09/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

I never knew that Christopher Reeves was a saint in heaven answering our prayers until I watched Baraq’s speech.

Barf city........

9 posted on 03/09/2009 8:59:05 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kansas58
Remember, the EMBRYONIC stem cell issue is about devaluing the human embryo so that none feel the pang of their conscience for killing a baby at this stage of development.
10 posted on 03/09/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Kansas58

Obama is on teleprompting his audience on tv.about the greatness of stem cell research and the market is once again falling as he teleprompts.

11 posted on 03/09/2009 9:02:57 AM PDT by Maumee (wtw)
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To: GodGunsGuts

fwiw, at least 3 of the companies stock prices flopped after he signed it.....they wiggled a bit north, but are now selling off right away now that it is signed.....I was watching STEM, GERN, and ASTM

12 posted on 03/09/2009 9:05:58 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: GodGunsGuts
President Obama is about to fulfill one of his campaign promises: lifting restrictions on creating new embryonic stem cell lines

Proving, once again, how correct so many Freepers have been over the last 8 years; There's not a DIMES worth of difference between George Bush and a Democrat.

13 posted on 03/09/2009 9:40:54 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Since there is no real proven benefit of using embyonic stem cells over using adult stem cells, I have a feeling that zero is in favor of using embryonic stem cells because it takes a human life. Hitler would be proud.

14 posted on 03/09/2009 9:53:05 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: GodGunsGuts





15 posted on 03/09/2009 10:02:20 AM PDT by Texas4ever (God is Good!)
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16 posted on 03/09/2009 10:06:09 AM PDT by Texas4ever (God is Good!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!

17 posted on 03/09/2009 10:13:45 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

Serious FYI

18 posted on 03/09/2009 11:08:22 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Except that embryonic stem cells don’t work.

They almost always kill the recipients.

I hear the President supports human trials.

19 posted on 03/09/2009 11:44:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
They almost always kill the recipients. I hear the President supports human trials.

OK then, I suggest we start on Ted Kennedy

20 posted on 03/09/2009 1:49:51 PM PDT by nascarnation
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Thank you bump & a ping

21 posted on 03/09/2009 10:59:56 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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22 posted on 03/10/2009 4:21:22 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: nascarnation


Works for me.

23 posted on 03/10/2009 10:06:47 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Godless cheer on the destruction of human life.

24 posted on 03/10/2009 2:22:20 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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