Students' disrespect can pass as racism in classrooms (St Pete,FL)

TampaBay.com ^ | 03/14/2009 | Ron Matus and Donna Winchester,

[CaspersGh0sts]

“If people don’t know the amount of unbridled, absolute hatred that inner city blacks have toward whites...they need a dose of reality.”

Oh, I got to listen to it at the utility company the other day. One particular woman went on a rant in front of me, the only white in the room, about how white people didn’t want blacks to have @$%#. About how it was time for black folks to “make they own jobs.” She then proclaimed that she was going to buy some socks and start selling them.

I snickered at this a bit silently.

Then she got up and started asking everyone in the room if they’d got their free cellphone from the government, yet, and telling them how to get one. One girl in the room noted how she thought she was getting free service, but they charged her $20 per month and to be careful.

It’s rampant, alright. I deal with it everyday in an inner-city hospital, as well. The most racist people I’ve ever known can get away with public racism without batting an eye.

[101voodoo]

I attended HS in the 1950’s and graduated in 1960. In all my time in the school system I NEVER saw anyhting remotely close to the disrespect shown today’s teachers.

I can recall a student in my Biology class being taken out of the classroom by the teacher because he had the nerve to groan as the teacher was writing the homework assignment on the blackboard. This teacher had from day one informed us, in effect, we would all sit still, shut up and LEARN. He would take no commentary except that pertaining to the work at hand and as happened with this student that day, he would follow the student out the door and the sound of 2 or three loud “bangs: could be heard as the student was slammed up against the lockers which lined the halls.

This teacher like most of them was always addressed as sir or Ma’am. No student would ever think of complaining to the folks about being disciplined in this way since it would result in even more pain from them. After all, if the teacher said you did it, then you did it, case closed.

This all took place during a time of double sessions in the HS while a new school was being built and the number of students per class reached into the 40’s. Yet we all received great educations which are in my opinion the easy equivalent of what kids with 4 years of college get today.

The difference between today and yesterday is explained by the following imo. Discipline, accountability and parental backing and involvement in the learning process.

[Shane]

What did they think would happen, when teachers are prevented from disciplining students

[devane617]

In the black community it is not cool to learn, You are made fun of if you make an effort to learn, do the homework assignments, and participate in class. The leaders of the black community never step up to the mike and state the real problem in the black community. The last, and current generation is lost. I see nothing but drug addicts, and criminals coming out of that community.

[aruanan]

In the black community it is not cool to learn, You are made fun of if you make an effort to learn, do the homework assignments, and participate in class. The leaders of the black community never step up to the mike and state the real problem in the black community. The last, and current generation is lost. I see nothing but drug addicts, and criminals coming out of that community.

Your problem is in seeing "that community" as monolithic. It is not. There are many places where it is cool to learn and kids are not disparaged for trying to do their best. Mostly those are non-public schools. I think that underlying all such pessimism, though, is the myth of black incompetence that was maintained by both slave-holding society and by abolitionists for their own separate reasons. The growth in economic well-being by black Americans post WWII was the greatest of any ethnic group. Then it came to a screeching halt in the 1960s as liberals in the federal government tried to lure the poor, especially black, by handouts into being their own private voting block.

[devane617]

Of course there are exceptions. Here in my community all students are required to learn without excuse. We have problems, but not like the metro school system a few miles south. Your implication that I see the black community as "monolithic" is incorrect. I see it for what it is -- a very, very, troubled community that does not appear to be getting better, no matter how much of our tax money is poured into it. The facts are the facts. Maybe it is your view of "that community" that is providing the excuses need to continue the downward spiral.

[I Buried My Guns]

"...Barbara Thornton, associate superintendent for high school programs, thinks such over-the-top comments are rare..."

This woman needs to get her head out of the clouds and into a classroom. She is an example of the ignorance that is destroying this nation.

This is mild compared to what I have experienced. It is to the point where many ghetto kids are unteachable, and schools have become a mere holding place before the kids enter prison.

[SunkenCiv]

Everyone who voted for Obama is a racist.

Anyone who uses the phrase “white bitch” (or white anything) is a racist.

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