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ACTION NEEDED! NATIONAL GIVE ACT H R 1388 Passed House 321-105/Now Goes to Senate
Thomas (Library of Congress) ^ | 3-18-09 | BHO

Posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:15 AM PDT by cgk

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To: Myrddin

I wasn’t surprised by our own squishy congressman Charlie Dent voting aye, but I was surprised to see our old rep Bilbray on the list of Ayes.


21 posted on 03/19/2009 10:14:52 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Dad was my hero

I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?
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You beat me to it. I don’t see anything ‘mandatory”, either.


22 posted on 03/19/2009 10:16:08 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Dad was my hero

This link to the bill in govtrack should take you right to the offending section: 61-4(b) 5-7

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355


23 posted on 03/19/2009 10:18:07 AM PDT by elc
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To: elc; Dad was my hero

Should be: 6104(b) 5-7


24 posted on 03/19/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by elc
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To: Dad was my hero; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?


I haven't had a chance to read all the text yet, but this is from Atlas Shrugs:

'Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.'

Also see this for those outside of 'secondary schools': 'Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”'

25 posted on 03/19/2009 10:20:20 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

FYI, if you use GovTrack to get to the bill, you can link right to any offending sections you want to highlight.

Example: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355


26 posted on 03/19/2009 10:20:23 AM PDT by elc
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To: unkus

see post #25


27 posted on 03/19/2009 10:21:37 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Dad was my hero
(3) YOUTH ENGAGEMENT ZONE PROGRAM- The term ‘youth engagement zone program’ means a service learning program in which members of an eligible partnership described in paragraph (4) collaborate to provide coordinated school-based or community-based service learning opportunities, to address a specific community challenge, for an increasing percentage of out-of-school youth and secondary school students served by local educational agencies where--
‘(A) not less than 90 percent of the students participate in service-learning activities as part of the program; or

‘(B) service-learning is a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.

And:

(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.

(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.

(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.

(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives.

(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.

(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.

(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.

(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.


28 posted on 03/19/2009 10:21:56 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: elc

Thank you very much, I did not know that!


29 posted on 03/19/2009 10:22:24 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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Thanks much!

Guess I'll get to spend some quality time in jail while I wait for my mandatory time to be up!

30 posted on 03/19/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: cgk

Unconstitutional on oh so many levels.


31 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:29 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect")
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To: cgk

They got their foot in the door. Now they’re free to kick it in. The language allows them to do exactly what 0bama and Rahmbo have already stated they intend to do.

They’re coming for the young ones.


32 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:35 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cgk

What is the Senate Bill Number?


33 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:48 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (America's Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: cgk

I’ll say this: There are a lot of veterans, like me, who

are going to “voluntarily” go back on “Active Duty”.

They’re going to find out about voluntary service.


34 posted on 03/19/2009 10:26:28 AM PDT by unkus
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To: cgk
I was surprised to see Bilbray in the Ayes too. Tom McClintock, Duncan Hunter and Daryl Issa were all NOs. Good on them!
35 posted on 03/19/2009 10:27:23 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: cgk

I’ll be damned if I’m going to let my children become subject to conscription under this “National Service Bill” by our federal government for ANYTHING of this sort...

TIME TO CALL, WRITE and basically RAISE HELL! Our youth will NOT support this! One of the things I heard younger people who supported Obama actually worry about was some sort of a draft. Well, this may not be for “military service”, but it is conscription nonetheless.

Your body, your time, your energy do not exist to become fodder for our government. They have NO RIGHT to demand these things of us...


36 posted on 03/19/2009 10:28:54 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: unkus; Dad was my hero

Did y’all go to the link? It’s in there.


37 posted on 03/19/2009 10:30:09 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: cgk

Do you know where we can find a breakdown according to party on this? Just out of curiosity...


38 posted on 03/19/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Witness the birth of the Obama Jugend.
39 posted on 03/19/2009 10:31:50 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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