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Vatican insiders declare the Pope a 'disaster'
The Telegraph ^ | 3/19/2009 | Nick Squires in Rome

Posted on 03/19/2009 5:06:17 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Pope Benedict's repeated gaffes and the Vatican's inability to manage his message in the internet era are threatening to undermine his papacy, Vatican insiders have said.

The Holy See is struggling to contain international anger over the Pope's claim on his first official visit to Africa that Aids "cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which even aggravates the problems".

The Pope's remarks about condoms, and a recent furore over his lifting of the 20-year excommunication of a British bishop who has questioned the Holocaust, has left him looking isolated and out of touch, prompting calls for a radical shake-up of the way the Holy See delivers its message.

The Pope is isolated and fails to adequately consult his advisers, said a Vatican source with 20 years' knowledge of the Holy See.

Another Vatican insider described Pope Benedict's four-year-old papacy as "a disaster", recalling the pontiff's previous inflammatory remarks on Islam and homosexuality.

"He's out of touch with the real world," the Italian insider said. "On the condom issue, for example, there are priests and bishops in Africa who accept that condoms are a key part of the fight against Aids, and yet the pope adheres to this very conservative line that they encourage promiscuity. The Vatican is far removed from the reality on the ground."

The Vatican's traditional culture of secrecy has made it ill-equipped to communicate its message in the internet age.

The Holy See claimed that the Pope had no idea that British bishop Richard Williamson had denied the extent of the Holocaust, but critics have pointed out that a simple Google search would have uncovered the maverick's anti-Semitic views.

"Until recently the Vatican was secretive and their way of controlling the message of the Church was to release information slowly and highly

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: africa; bxvi; catholic; catholicbashing; hitpiece; popebenedict; unnamedsources; vatican
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To: bruinbirdman
The Telegraph is very anti catholic and I wouldn't believe a word that they say. They are like the media here only asking questions of enamoured Nobama people what their thoughts are on our newest messiah. They search these people out and only give their own spin.
Abstinence makes solid homes, happier children and less to no AIDS
21 posted on 03/19/2009 5:21:02 PM PDT by mckenzie7 ( mohammed = 666)
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To: mamelukesabre
The next pope is the anti-christ...or is the the false prophet?

No. According to prophecy, Pope BXVI will flee Rome and die in exile. A pretender will claim the papal throne and many will accept him as pope but he will not be a valid pope. The Church will be without a pope for a period anywhere from 2-4 years. The Church and the world will undergo a severe chastisement where 3/4 of the population dies. The remaining bishops will gather to elect a valid pope, our last, who will rule about 40 years until antichrist appears. Then it's game over.

What we are about to undergo is a severe chastisement in the end times, but it is not THE end of time.

22 posted on 03/19/2009 5:22:06 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: bruinbirdman

Wow, what a pile of feces.


23 posted on 03/19/2009 5:25:27 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: bruinbirdman

lemme guess...an”insider”...sounds like an American propagandist trying to lick somebody’s boots in the Obama administration....


24 posted on 03/19/2009 5:25:27 PM PDT by mo
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To: bruinbirdman

Judas could have provided similar quotes about Jesus.


25 posted on 03/19/2009 5:25:52 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: bruinbirdman

The Pope needs a Teleprompter named TOTV


26 posted on 03/19/2009 5:27:30 PM PDT by omega4179 (Look out below! Thanks Obamanomics.)
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To: bruinbirdman
The Pope is isolated and fails to adequately consult his advisers

The pope knows exactly what he is doing. He makes great decisions. He is awesome.

27 posted on 03/19/2009 5:27:51 PM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: bruinbirdman
The Pope is isolated and fails to adequately consult his advisers, said a Vatican source with 20 years' knowledge of the Holy See

Well, since the Almighty is supposed to guide the heart of the Pope, either this "unnamed source" doesn't believe in the word of God, or he doesn't believe that the Pope is guided by God. Either way, he's apparently demonstrating that he doesn't believe at all in the Papal tradition... rather curious for one supposedly in the Vatican for 20+ years.

(I smell a reporter with a penchant for creating quotes.)

28 posted on 03/19/2009 5:29:46 PM PDT by Teacher317
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“Vatican insiders” are akin to career State Department bureaucrats.


29 posted on 03/19/2009 5:30:33 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Ann Archy

Pope Benedict is causing angst among the “politically correct” Vatican politicians, not among the Faithful. He speaks from his heart and his huge intellect.

These ‘insiders’ remind me of people who worked in the Bush White House and then turned on him.


30 posted on 03/19/2009 5:30:36 PM PDT by maica (Barack Obama is a Communist Party Project.)
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To: bruinbirdman

LOL! “Vatican insiders”, huh? Are they kind of like the ‘sources close to the Administration’ who kept giving negative info to the MSM about President Bush?


31 posted on 03/19/2009 5:31:01 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Reminds me of that Fatima prophecy about the Holy Father being attacked by a primitive army...which no longer seems so impossible :(


32 posted on 03/19/2009 5:31:32 PM PDT by Graymatter (Don't enable destroyers. File for chapter 44 -- barackruptcy.)
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To: maica

right.....God knows who they are.


33 posted on 03/19/2009 5:32:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I’d say the moronic insiders are full of crap


34 posted on 03/19/2009 5:34:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Maybe the Pope should hire David Axelrod to do a “Hopey/Popey/Changey campaign. There fixed it.


35 posted on 03/19/2009 5:34:11 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: mamelukesabre

I think you are trying to recall St. Malachy.


36 posted on 03/19/2009 5:34:49 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: workerbee

I can think of a few Catholics who should get the boot..we can start with Kennedy, Princess Pelosi, Kerry...just to get things rolling...


37 posted on 03/19/2009 5:37:29 PM PDT by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Well, dang he’s right! He said, “Aids cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which even aggravates the problems.” True.


38 posted on 03/19/2009 5:37:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bruinbirdman
"He's out of touch with the real world,"

No. He is the Holy Father and the leader of my Church.

39 posted on 03/19/2009 5:37:51 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: mo

I’m sure it’s a real liberal....probably part of the lavender mafia.


40 posted on 03/19/2009 5:40:08 PM PDT by CASchack
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