I have mixed feelings on this. Adoptees are ALL subject to having their original birth certificates altered so that they reflect the names of their two legal guardians (with no indication they are adopted). While I personally don’t like the idea of a gay couple adopting a child this child WAS adopted in accordance with the laws in the State in which they adopted.
What is the solution here? Do you want this judge to NOT alter the Birth Certificate (illegal according to the state laws), or only put down ONE guardian (legally these men ARE this child’s legal guardians), or would you like them to create a “Special” Birth Certificate for this child (create a “special class” of citizens)?
I’ve got a GREAT idea — How about we DON’T tamper with ANYONE’s BIRTH CERTIFICATES, and instead issue certificates of GUARDIANSHIP for all adoptive parents? Wouldn’t THAT be a MUCH better idea? (Heck, it may head off some eligibility questions in the future on whether foreign-born adopted children are “natural born citizens” as well! (Too bad this wasn’t thought of before Barry Soetero/Obama/whoever got elected, eh????).
That way we wouldn’t have ANY of these problems, would we???
It’s ridiculous that states make it possible for parents to lie to their adopted children by making it appear on all legal paperwork as if they had never been adopted in the first place... At least this boy will never live under some misconception that he wasn’t adopted!
The solution is don’t let poofers adopt. IF they do, then list it as an ADOPTION certificate. This is as absurd as gay “marriage”
Wow, should have read your post first before asking if it would be an adoption certificate rather then a birth certificate. What you wrote tells me that the government lies on all the official papers of adopted children. In this day and age it seems unfair to me. An individual should have the right to know the names and health of the people who’s biology conceived them.
the solution is really simple.
A birth certificate must list ONE mother and ONE father.
If the child created by labratory means then the father or the mother is unknown and listed as such.
There is no two male or two female parent birth certificates. PERIOD.
Adoption by homosexuals should be prohibited period.
If he goes to public school, there's no guarantee what he'll believe.
This is a sensitive issue for many people. But, the truth is, test tube babies and surrogates led to couples going outside the marriage, and if they're using donors/surrogates, what's the argument against two men or two women coupling and using donors/surrogates?
There was an actual case in my state of two women arguing for both their names to appear on a birth certificate. They won the case based on the fact that heterosexual couples who go outside their marriage for donors/surrogates have their own names (not the names of the donors/surrogates) put on the birth certificate.
Adoptive parents having their names placed on birth certificates led to this mess, too.
How about we DON’T tamper with ANYONE’s BIRTH CERTIFICATES, and instead issue certificates of GUARDIANSHIP for all adoptive parents?
Good idea! If we were in the position to adopt, I would prefer an adoption certificate or a certificate of guardianship. If the birth parents want to remain anonymous, maybe "anonymous" could be written on birth certificates of children who are adopted. I had relatives who were adopted in the old days when I'm pretty sure adoptive parents' names weren't on the BCs. I say so because that's how one relative found out she was adopted - she saw her BC.
ADOPTION is a complicated thing.
Thankfully, God adopts us most fully into Jacob’s clan.
Into GOD’S OWN FAMILY.
I think most adoptive parents—particularly those well screened—really do the best they know to do.
Some had poor instructions and teaching. Some were misguided in their biases.
And some were even jerks and abusive.
Regardless of the abuse, the hurt, the pain, the trauma etc. . . .
sooner or later
IF WE WANT FORGIVEN, WE MUST FORGIVE UTTERLY, FULLY, THOROUGHLY, AND RELEASE THEM AND ALL THE PAIN TO GOD TOTALLY.
AND EVERY TIME SUCH THOUGHTS RETURN, REBUKE THEM, RESIST THEM, RECONFESS FORGIVENESS; RE ASK GOD TO MAKE THE FORGIVENESS THOROUGHLY REAL IN YOUR LIFE AND EMOTIONS . . . AND GO ON. PRAY FOR THE HORRIFIC PERSONS AS THOUGH RESCUING THEM FROM THE FIRES OF HELL.
ASK GOD TO PUT US INSIDE THEIR SKIN AND FEEL WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE THEM SUFFICIENTLY FOR US TO HAVE COMPASSION FOR THEM. ETC. ETC.
I’m serious.
Christ died for each of us when we were lost in sin and unloveable in the natural.
All of us have had the potential to do any evil thing anyone else has done IF we’d had their context, their conditioning, their personalities etc.
WE HAVE NO GROUNDS . . . ABSOLUTELY NO GROUNDS OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE FROM WHICH TO BE HAUGHTY TOWARD ANYONE.
AND IT IS GREATLY SPIRITUALLY HAZARDOUS TO THINK OTHERWISE.
Yes, it’s horrific to be lied to by one’s primary care-givers—one’s parents. What else are they lying about. Are they lying about really loving me etc.
But most of them lie about adoption because they think that will insure more strongly that there’s NO DIFFERENCE in their relationship with the adopted child than if the child were naturally born because the child will know of no other reality. That’s not a bad desire or goal.
It’s just that the truth seldom stays hidden. And then the lie hurts more.
Nevertheless, FORGIVENESS IS THE ONLY ROUTE TO HEALING, WHOLENESS, HEALTH AND AN OVERCOMING LIFE.
LUB
The fact is that a child cannot have 2 fathers. Or, in La., 2 single parents. Either would be a fiction. For medical records, the children should have access to biological info.
Why isn’t the cirt from NY?