Interesting how you are so quick to jump on Ruse. It is your guys who put him out there as the defender of your faith. So now you want to go against the myriad of credentialed evolutionists who count on his expertise for their support.
They pay him big bucks to debate creationists and to give speeches at universities across this country. Am I now to believe he is disqualified to speak what he thinks of evolution?
You better tell that to the University of Florida who pays him big bucks to help convince the students evolution is more substantially supported then creationism.
I mean he is out there being quoted by all the media and university brochures and an expert against all the men in my article that started this thread.
Even the Arkansas Supreme court overruled a law put in place to teach creationism in schools based upon his testimony in their court. Are you better then the Arkansas Supreme Court?
Quick, call all these places to start with.
call Florida State university
call Harvard university;
call the University of Guelph, Ontario Canada;
call the Arkansas Supreme Court;
call the University of Sydney Australia
call Richard Dawkins (close friend and fellow debater)
Everyone of these places and including Mr. Dawkins have crowned Mr Ruse as one of the Kingpins of the evolution/Creationism debate. Mr. Dawkis regularly calls him a scientist of reputable fame. Am I to believe yo over all the people from all these places? I ran out of time or I am sure I could have found even more people much more, should we say, reputable than you are.
Better watch your self, these guys have egos, and they do not like being told their opinion sucks!
Now, I'll let you slide because you just want to win a debate here. But I don't think you really know what you are talking about when you discredit your own biggest supporter of evolution there is out there.
But you are smarter than these guys right?
Yeah right!
Interesting how you are so quick to jump on Ruse. It is your guys who put him out there as the defender of your faith. So now you want to go against the myriad of credentialed evolutionists who count on his expertise for their support. They pay him big bucks to debate creationists and to give speeches at universities across this country. Am I now to believe he is disqualified to speak what he thinks of evolution? You better tell that to the University of Florida who pays him big bucks to help convince the students evolution is more substantially supported then creationism. I mean he is out there being quoted by all the media and university brochures and an expert against all the men in my article that started this thread. Even the Arkansas Supreme court overruled a law put in place to teach creationism in schools based upon his testimony in their court. Are you better then the Arkansas Supreme Court? Quick, call all these places to start with. call Florida State university call Harvard university; call the University of Guelph, Ontario Canada; call the Arkansas Supreme Court; call the University of Sydney Australia call Richard Dawkins (close friend and fellow debater) Everyone of these places and including Mr. Dawkins have crowned Mr Ruse as one of the Kingpins of the evolution/Creationism debate. Mr. Dawkis regularly calls him a scientist of reputable fame. Am I to believe yo over all the people from all these places? I ran out of time or I am sure I could have found even more people much more, should we say, reputable than you are. Better watch your self, these guys have egos, and they do not like being told their opinion sucks! Now, I'll let you slide because you just want to win a debate here. But I don't think you really know what you are talking about when you discredit your own biggest supporter of evolution there is out there. But you are smarter than these guys right? Yeah right! Wow, that's pathetic. I pointed out that you had misrepresented what Ruse had said, and I asked you to explain why you had done that, and now the best you can do is to falsely accusing me of "jumping on Ruse" and falsely accusing me of claiming to be smarter/better than a bunch of people, instead of explaining yourself.
Then in a subsequent post you just repeat the quote you had misused inappropriately, beat your chest about how effectively you smack people with it, then declared some kind of weird victory.
I don't know how people score debates on Planet Anti-Evo, but that's not how mature adults discuss issues. Not honorable ones, anyway.
An honorable person would actually deal directly with the fact that I had caught them misrepsenting Ruse's comment, misstating his position, and misusing a quote out of context. They wouldn't pretend not to have read what I said and then gone off on a big goofy rant about things I haven't said while they pretended I had.
Look, if you can't bring yourself to deal with what I actually wrote, just don't respond and pretend you got busy with something else -- don't make a fool of yourself by posting desperate nonsense like what you just posted.
I had previously mistaken you for someone who honestly wanted to discuss the issue. I won't make that mistake again. I've met a few intellectually honest anti-evolutionists in the past thirty five years I've been investigating and discussing this subject, but not many, and sadly most of them are like you -- never showing the slightest embarassment when caught misrepresenting something, never admitting fault even when caught clearly red-handed, and brashly repeating the misrepresentations without shame at the next available opportunity.
I'm sure it's a lot easier to "debate" something if you don't give a fig for accuracy or honesty, and have no shame in making false accusations and pretending that you didn't see where people have identified your inaccuracies and asked you to justify your behavior. Just keep obstinately repeating the misrepresentations until everyone gets tired of the futility of it and gives up challenging you -- it's the anti-evos' favorite tactic.
I just don't understand how they can face themselves in the mirror, or ludicrously claim the high road as the bastions of truth and righteousness... No deity I can conceive of would actually approve of such behavior.