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Fitna - a short documentary film about Islam by Geert Wilders
Break.com ^ | Geert Wilders

Posted on 04/05/2009 11:26:53 AM PDT by EveningStar

It runs about 17 minutes.

(Excerpt) Read more at break.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fitna; geertwilders; islam; koran; quran; tm
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1 posted on 04/05/2009 11:26:54 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: seenenuf; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Tweeker; The Spirit Of Allegiance; Jo Nuvark

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2 posted on 04/05/2009 11:28:24 AM PDT by EveningStar ("...If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken / Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools...")
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To: EveningStar

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3 posted on 04/05/2009 11:31:20 AM PDT by gigster
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To: EveningStar

I’m always very put off by the lie about homosexuality and Islam.

The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
Jamie Glazov, 10/4/2001

“Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for “homosexual” in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=d40cfecb-5b2a-400c-bc31-2e9522fdbb04


4 posted on 04/05/2009 12:56:28 PM PDT by donna (Sheriff Dept watch: http://www.firecoalition.com/article/index.asp?type=announce&id=111)
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To: donna

Apparently it is so widespread that Al Queda itself, in an attempt to protect its ‘reputation’ (?) issued a specific directive forbidding its men from allowing boys in their bedrooms.

What I’ve heard is that pederasty—man-to-boy—is (and always has been) tolerated while adult-adult homosexual behavior is (ironically enough) very frowned upon.


5 posted on 04/05/2009 1:37:29 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

We cannot pretend that homosexuals are victims, when in fact they are part of the source. It’s all one ball of wax:

THE PINK SWASTIKA

It was no coincidence that homosexuals were among those who founded the Nazi Party. In fact, the party grew out of a number of groups in Germany which were centers of homosexual activity and activism. Many of the characteristic rituals, symbols, activities and philosophies we associate with Nazism came from these organizations or from contemporary homosexuals. The extended-arm “Sieg Heil” salute, for example, was a ritual of the Wandervoegel (“Wandering Birds” or “Rovers”), a male youth society which became the German equivalent of the Boy Scouts. The Wandervoegel was started in the late 1800s by a group of homosexual teenagers. Its first adult leader, Karl Fischer, called himself “der Fuehrer” (“the Leader”)

http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm


6 posted on 04/05/2009 2:37:36 PM PDT by donna (Sheriff Dept watch: http://www.firecoalition.com/article/index.asp?type=announce&id=111)
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To: EveningStar; donna; AnalogReigns

It is a misapprehension to think that the relationship between two homosexuals is even or equal, just because both are men.

One is dominant, usually older and more powerful. The other is submissive. Submissive homosexuals can eventually become dominant, as they grow older and more confident and trade for younger partners.

The usual attitude, among ancient Greeks, Nazis, and Muslims alike, is to excuse the dominant male but despise the submissive male. If he is just a kid, maybe he can’t help it and will grow out of it. But it is the submissive males who were taken to the gas chambers by Nazis or hanged by Muslims.

It’s probably inevitable that there should be a lot of homosexuality in Muslim countries, because the whole culture and religion is all about dominance and submission. The most dominant males have four wives, and in the old days harems full of concubines. The less dominant males went out on missions of conquest to find new slaves and new mistresses. On occasion, Allah would take women away from his followers, because he was the alpha male.

In earlier times, when homosexuality was condemned in the West and often legally punished, European homosexuals went to North Africa and the Middle East to find boys. It was pretty common.

It’s like adultery in the Muslim world. Adultery is sinful, but the man is at most scolded, while the woman is stoned to death. It is the woman, or the submissive homosexual, who brings shame to his family and tribe, not the rapist. Dominant males—rapists, slave takers, adulterers, or butch homosexuals, are admired and envied.


7 posted on 04/05/2009 3:09:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Allah—I meant Muhammed, pbuh.


8 posted on 04/05/2009 3:11:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Yes, thank you.

Trying to rally western civilization to resist Islam based on their persecution of homosexuals, to me, is a sign that the rallying effort is flawed at its base. The rally is just another corrupt direction based on the homosexual lie.

That is the flaw in see in the ‘Fitna’ film.


9 posted on 04/05/2009 3:23:34 PM PDT by donna (Sheriff Dept watch: http://www.firecoalition.com/article/index.asp?type=announce&id=111)
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To: donna

I don’t know whether that’s his own thinking, or whether it’s his way of appealing to the PC crowd whom he is trying to wake up. What he is pointing out by that aspect of the film is that it’s delusory for leftists to think that you can tolerate Islam, because Islam won’t tolerate you.


10 posted on 04/05/2009 3:35:40 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Agreed. Since my massive disillusionment after the 1994 election, I’m sensitive about how things can just go wrong and get worst instead of better.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 3:57:31 PM PDT by donna (Sheriff Dept watch: http://www.firecoalition.com/article/index.asp?type=announce&id=111)
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To: EveningStar

Ping for when I have the stomach for it.


12 posted on 04/05/2009 8:51:01 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: EveningStar

Well, some required information then...

Geert Wilders and FITNA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

You can see FITNA here...,

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/03/watch-fitna.html

Someone else posted a YouTube interview of Geert Wilders, another thing to see.

First part of 6 parts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGh3WNsfTb4


13 posted on 04/16/2009 6:22:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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