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Montana Poised to Buck Federal Gun Control
Flathead Beacon ^ | 04-05-09 | Kahrin Deines

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:26:56 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

HELENA – Montana-made guns may form the basis for a court showdown over states' rights if the governor signs a bill to release some firearms in the state from federal regulation.

The proposed law aims to exempt firearms, weapons components and ammunition made in Montana and kept in Montana from federal gun laws. Since the state has few gun laws of its own, the legislation would allow some gunowners and sellers in the state to skirt registration, licensing requirements and background checks entirely...

(Excerpt) Read more at flatheadbeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; atf; banglist; batfe; donttreadonme; interstatecommerce; shallnotbeinfringed; staterights; statesrights
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To: neverdem

Very serious question: When the fed/fascists (or whoever owns it) try to take over the nation, how will all the individuals with their own guns and ammo, communicate to join forces? How will you know who to trust?


61 posted on 04/07/2009 7:36:48 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Buchal

Typical Leftist convoluted thinking.....

The discussion concerned intent of the individual farmer....the result was determined by “If every farmer should”....

The result, the determination indicates there was an agenda.


62 posted on 04/07/2009 8:29:57 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; ZirconEncrustedTweezers
With a pair of heavy-duty zircon-encrusted tweezers...

When talking about a fellow member,(in reply #46), it's customary to ping him,which I've done with this reply.

63 posted on 04/07/2009 9:25:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: Redbob

“Gee, I didn’t think there was a federal gun registration and licensing requirement?”

I think you could call the Form 4473 a de-facto registration. Some gun store owners share the information freely with anyone who shows a badge and says they are investigating a crime. Not by just looking up a serial number either but allowing them to browse through the records.

IIRC, when a FFL goes out of business, Form 4473s must be turned into the ATF, who keep them to trace firearms used in a crime. I don’t doubt they are used legitimately at the ATF (most of the time) but the potential is there for abuse. And several states now want the Federal Govt to share that information with them through an online database.


64 posted on 04/07/2009 9:31:13 PM PDT by jim-x (You cannot protect people from themselves.)
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To: huldah1776

“Very serious question: When the fed/fascists (or whoever owns it) try to take over the nation, how will all the individuals with their own guns and ammo, communicate to join forces? How will you know who to trust?”

Very serious answer: If you don’t know who to trust, you can’t trust anyone.


65 posted on 04/07/2009 9:33:59 PM PDT by jim-x (You cannot protect people from themselves.)
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To: neverdem

I wonder if Montana could handle an exodus of millions?


66 posted on 04/07/2009 9:40:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: ForGod'sSake
BANG!
67 posted on 04/07/2009 9:48:41 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: DuncanWaring; jwparkerjr

Gardiner doesn’t look too bad. Neither does Ekalaka.


68 posted on 04/07/2009 10:11:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Still Thinking

I would imagine if you have experience in the construction industry, with the massive exodus of people looking to get away from Fedzilla, plenty of work would be had for a little while.


69 posted on 04/07/2009 10:13:34 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Red Steel

“Good for Montana; enforce the 2nd and 10th amendment.”

Exactly and more states need to do the same.


70 posted on 04/07/2009 10:33:10 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Does Montana manufacture many firearms in state?

They will now.

71 posted on 04/07/2009 11:59:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: ForGod'sSake; bamahead

Ping


72 posted on 04/08/2009 7:53:59 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: EdReform; neverdem; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
"We'd like to just be able to make our own guns here in Montana and have the feds stay out of it"



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
73 posted on 04/08/2009 8:05:40 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: pie_eater

It’s cold in the winter and freaking HOT in the summer in the whole state.


74 posted on 04/08/2009 10:53:50 AM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; ...
Thanks for the ping EdReform! Additional discussion:

Gun fight with the feds in Big Sky Country?

Montana is struttin' their stuff!

Click the 10th Amendment button for articles tagged "10thamendment". A "statesrights" link is atop the forum page.



Please ~ping~ me to articles relating to the 10th Amendment/States Rights so I can engage the pinger.

I've stopped scouring threads and unilaterally adding names to the ping list, so if you want on or off the list just say so.

Additional Resources:

Tenth Amendment Chronicles Thread
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CLICK HERE TO FIND YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES

75 posted on 04/08/2009 11:22:33 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: 2harddrive

“Free with 100 fillups of 10 gallons or more”.


76 posted on 04/08/2009 11:28:56 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Thanks for the ping. Montana is looking mighty attractive these days...


77 posted on 04/08/2009 11:53:26 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: neverdem

Way to go.


78 posted on 04/08/2009 12:12:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 2harddrive
So, will machine guns and sawed-off shotguns soon be legally sold in gas stations and hardware stores in Montana, once again? If ao, I am moving there!

You and me both man.

79 posted on 04/08/2009 12:22:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: neverdem
Works for me Go Ahead: Click It!
80 posted on 04/08/2009 12:38:36 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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