Posted on 04/12/2009 8:19:47 PM PDT by neverdem
It would be nice if that were true, but it isn't. A quick google brings up several sources debunking the "Amish don't vaccinate and have no autism" myth. See here.
Thimerosal (sp?), the mercury containing preservative hasn't been used in more than 5 years in any vaccine.
"The special court is still examining evidence regarding another causation theory that links autism with vaccines containing thimersol."
It's spelled thimerosal. That's an FDA link.
It hasn't been given for at least a few years for pediatric vaccinations that are now supplied as single unit dose vials. Only annual influenza vaccinations supplied in multiple dose, aka multidose, vials uses thimerosal as a preservative, IIRC.
Coleus, did you have a link showing the various vaccines and all their ingredients?
Why would ANYBODY wanting to stop the epidemic then, do a “study” designed to exonerate a vaccination program? Shouldn't REAL scientists be trying to FIND THE FRIGGING CAUSE, instead of PROTECT THE VACCINE INDUSTRY?
I have had it with GOVERNMENT FUNDED PSEUDO-SCIENCE.
Thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001 and autism is still increasing so what will be the next scare?
I read something in the WSJ. I believe it hasn't been used in the production of vaccines since 2004. Certainly, there was some excess supply, but I don't think most Vaccines have a shelf-life past 12 months.
So it's definitely time to work on finding the cause, rather than keep blaming something that isn't the cause.
I don't think that the reason this study was done is to "exonerate" the vaccination industry. But, for the purposes of this discussion, let's stipulate that indeed the only reason was to validate the safety of modern day vaccines.
That is a great reason.
Vaccines are safe. Period. The real threat of increasingly un-vaccinated children is exponentially greater than the (to use your words) pseudo-scientific lynching of vaccines and their makers. Vaccines manufactured by "Big Pharma" that have all but completely eradicated real and dangerous disease that ravage parts of the undeveloped world.
In short, THANK GOD for the US vaccine industry the last 50 years. The benefit they've brought to the US and mankind is INCALCULABLE.
The Amish do vaccinate.
“It hasn’t been given for at least a few years for pediatric vaccinations that are now supplied as single unit dose vials. “
Not correct. It isn’t used in production of new vaccines, but there isn’t any law stopping old stocks which contain thimerosal from being administered.
Regardless, the aluminum adjuvant may be even worse than mercury.
“Vaccines are safe. Period.”
Show me the double blind studies with placebo.
They don’t exist.
Vaccines are an abomination. Thank God they are voluntary.
Had you taken your own advice you would know that it was ethyl mercury that formed the thimerosal in vaccines and that ethyl mercury is cleared from the body three times faster than methyl mercury.
Long term exposure to mercury is what accounts for its damaging effects and methyl mercury, mostly from industrial sources, is what most people are exposed to.
Education supports vaccination.
I can't show you "double-blind" studies showing the safety or the benefit of...
Defibrillators
Seat belts
Helmets
But, that doesn't mean they're not safe and it certainly doesn't mean that they're not great ideas.
As for your charge itself, there's not a drug regulatory agency in the world that has more stringent approval procedures that the FDA. That is a fact and is why so many people with terminal cancers and other diseases travel outside the US for otherwise experimental or unapproved or vetted procedures.
If a vaccine, or any drug for that matter, is approved for use in the US, IT HAS GONE THROUGH EXTENSIVE double-blind trials.
Lifting the Veils of Autism, One by One by One
Study: Rare gene change linked to autism
They come with lot numbers and expiration dates. IIRC, you have to keep a separate log for vaccines in addition to a note in the patient's chart in NY including lot numbers and expiration dates.
Aluminum is ubiquitous in the environment.
marking
Everyone who has, or knows someone who has, an autistic child should check out a therapy called Quigong, which has been developed by a Salem, Or DR named Verma. Through a pilot program at Oregon Special ED, we got our autistic Son started at age 4. in a few days the difference was noted, and after a couple of weeks, the neighbors began to comment on the changes in him.
After the 5 mos of therapy, we continued alone with him for 2 more years until he decided he was “too big a boy” to continue. now, at 8 yo he gets lonely without his friends around and is a normal chatterbox, who notices when I say uhm hmm and asks if I am listening. the whole program is to get the kid’s attention turned back outwards from self. Dr Verm’s offfice is in Indepedence OR, google or you can talk to me at rontorr@hotmail.com, or call at 503-363-1769 (call between 7pm and7 am EDT ) Ron
oops I got the name of a DR wong in a post, it was Louisa Silva, not Verma
Autism has been increasing as has childhood allergic disease and type 1 diabetes.
So what does that say about the effectiveness of our safety testing approaches for chemicals and drugs as per prenatal, neonatal and juvenile risk? Seems obvious based on the data. No way we are getting the job done.
Drugs and chemicals are not routinely tested for risk of childhood allergic, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases? Yet that is what has been increasing among children. We apply the highest technology imaginable for drug development, but our safety testing is archaic and has lagged need by about 30-40 years.
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