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New Wrinkle On Avoiding Jury Duty
The Smoking Gun ^ | 04/30/09 | Staff

Posted on 04/30/2009 9:54:52 AM PDT by DFG

There are probably better ways to avoid jury duty than the approach recently taken by a Montana man. After Erik Slye, 36, received a jury notice earlier this year, he filed a notarized affidavit seeking to be excused from serving on a District Court panel in Gallatin County. Slye's caustic affidavit, which he prepared with help from his wife Jennifer, can be found below.

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To: ontap
So you don’t believe in the jury system!

Where did I say that?

81 posted on 04/30/2009 11:42:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: gieriscm

Dang it... ;-)


82 posted on 04/30/2009 11:44:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: William Tell

On most mornings I watch the call-in program on C-Span and I shake my head that some of those callers vote and serve on juries. I trust you feel exceptionally comfortable having such people interpreting the constitution and highly complex statutes. I find it amusing that the same people who howl about judges making laws and are so comfortable with jury nullification.


83 posted on 04/30/2009 11:47:54 AM PDT by monocle
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

WR ping


84 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:26 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: from occupied ga
I bet you're proud to pay your taxes too.

Oh I don't know. If you do then obviously some one has to serve on juries. People who serve don't have to like it they do it because they realize some one has to. I would not say I'm proud to pay my taxes I try to avoid all that I legally can but I do pay them. I don't go out of my way to get on a jury but if I do I serve. Some one has to do both these things.

85 posted on 04/30/2009 11:53:43 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap
I fail to see the humor in it.

You must be a lot of fun to go out counting dog's balls wrinkles with.

86 posted on 04/30/2009 11:58:55 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: monocle
monocle said: "I find it amusing that the same people who howl about judges making laws and are so comfortable with jury nullification."

I am among those who would NEVER convict somebody of violating an unConstitutional law infringing the right to keep and bear arms.

The system we have is certainly broken and has been for quite some time. But it will not be made better by having jurors willing to follow Congress, the President, or the trial court judge instead of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

You didn't answer my question: Would you vote to convict someone of violating an unConsitutional law?

87 posted on 04/30/2009 11:58:57 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Nonstatist
A secretary some where had to read what this idiot wrote. Would you have liked for that to be your wife or mother? Crudeness is crudeness whether some find humor in it or not. Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude but the use of the foul language wasn't necessary he could have made his point without it.
88 posted on 04/30/2009 11:59:10 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap
My problem with juries is the uncompensated involuntary servitude associated with them. Judges get from $140,000 a year and up. Prosecutors are well paid by the taxpayers, but jurists are forced under threat of imprisonment to work for $30 a day. If you
  1. paid juries the same daily rate that the judge received, and
  2. let jury members set the schedules of what day(s) they wanted to work just like any other member of the justice system
I'd have a lot fewer problems with the system. As it is jury members are treated more like criminals than other participants in the justice system.
89 posted on 04/30/2009 12:05:18 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: DoughtyOne
You got to fill out the profile paperwork. Defense lawyers don't want white men who are not in a union, not going to school and work in the private sector on juries. I have been on jury duty over a dozen times and never once got picked. If they found out you were a conservative they will immediately dismiss you.
90 posted on 04/30/2009 12:09:25 PM PDT by dancusa (The word "racist" is a magic shield word that's supposed to stop any dissent.)
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To: org.whodat

Folks, as conservatives we need to perform our jury duty.

What if the accused concerns a second amendment issue?

What if the subject is an effort to take a persons home to give it to a developer?

What if the case is about an acorn worker registering fake voters?

Jury duty is where the law and the citizenship of “we the people” reach nexus.

The final decision is not left to lawyers or judges. It is left to the citizens. The only way around that is for the parties to select to settle or select a judge trial.

I am simplifying.

However, jury duty is just as valuable as voting. (well voting outside of chicago)


91 posted on 04/30/2009 12:16:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ontap
A secretary some where had to read what this idiot wrote. Would you have liked for that to be your wife or mother? Crudeness is crudeness whether some find humor in it or not. Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude but the use of the foul language wasn't necessary he could have made his point without it.

What the man wrote was no cruder than what you hear on prime time commercial TV every night.

92 posted on 04/30/2009 12:16:48 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

Forget it!


93 posted on 04/30/2009 12:23:51 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: monocle

John Jay
The Jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy.” John Jay , 1st Chief Justice USSC 1789 “The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts.” . Samuel Chase, USSC, 1796 “The jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both law and fact.” Oliver Wendell Holmes, USSC 1902 “The law itself is on trial quite as much as the cause which is to be decided.” Harlan F. Stone, USSC 1941 “The pages of history shine on instances of the jury’s exercise of it’s prerogative to disregard instructions of the judge.” . US v. Dougherty, 473 F 2nd 1113, 1139, (1972)

Thomas Jefferson
“It is left, therefore, to the juries, if they think the permanent judges are under any bias whatever in any cause, to take on themselves to judge the law as well as the fact. They never exercise this power but when they suspect partiality in the judges, and by the exercise of this power they have been the firmest bulwarks of English liberty.”


94 posted on 04/30/2009 12:23:54 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: from occupied ga

You do realize we have to pay that!


95 posted on 04/30/2009 12:25:13 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: dancusa

not true.

I have picked and been on juries. Each case is different.

You just never know what the lawyers are looking for OR if their “freebie” challenges will be used up before they get to you. The prosecutor may want a white male (despite race not being allowed) and the defense attorney may have used up their preemptions.

In a civil case, one lawyer may want someone who owned his own business or somebody who would be sympathetic to a charge of reverse racism.


96 posted on 04/30/2009 12:34:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ontap
Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude

Ummmmmmm. You sure sound like one. It may have been crude, but I don't think most people are going to want to be hauled down to court, so I dont think this kind of thing will become a trend, if thats what youre worrying about.

97 posted on 04/30/2009 1:52:05 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: anniegetyourgun
I sincerely hope that you are not deliberately trying to get out of actually serving on a jury.

Should I ever be in need of a jury, I would prefer that it not be composed of libtards.

Accordingly I do nothing, when summoned, to dissuade lawyers from seating me on the panel.

I've been summoned twice and served twice. I'd gladly do it again.

98 posted on 04/30/2009 1:55:25 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’ve been called at least 6x in life - always served...never seated. The attorneys typically prefer the less educated and experienced.


99 posted on 04/30/2009 2:06:40 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: from occupied ga

1) I agree with you that juries are grotesquely underpaid.

2) When I had a severe schedule conflict with a jury summons, I had no trouble at all getting it delayed; the bureaucrat was quite cooperative in finding an alternative date that fit my schedule. I’ll note that I was polite and prompt in addressing the matter. Common decency goes a long way in preventing pointless conflict.


100 posted on 04/30/2009 2:09:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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