[pepsionice]

Full-speed ahead. I also believe that cousins should be allowed to marry...and people should have the right to marry animals. We might as well make this as stupid as possible...until someone starts to grasp the whole game being played out.

Before the mid-1800s, states didn’t control marriage or require licenses. If you wanted a marriage, you went to a minister....got noted in a Bible....and walked out a couple. This entire game of state-recognized marriage started up because of issues of joint-property and the guys who were marrying in one town...leaving suddenly...and popping up 40 miles away married to another woman.

To point this out...we’ve had “union” problems for decades. I can remember in my hometown...there were two sisters and one brother who decided to stay at home....and never left. One became a school teacher...one a gardener...and the brother was a local roofer. When I left in 1977...they were all three in their 60’s and still in the family house. There are all kinds of issues here...where the three probably should have had some kind of “union” status and able to own joint-property between them. I see the same issue with two guys who are best friends and own a restaurant for three decades...they ought to have some kind of union status.

We need to stand back and review this whole game. The gays have turn marriage into a joke. We might as well return the concept of marriage in 1780...let it be a non-state matter and just marry in a church. If you want a union of any type....even if its five guys who want the union...go for it and be state-recognized.

[Hepsabeth]

Full-speed ahead. I also believe that cousins should be allowed to marry...

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First cousins are allowed to marry in the following states (and DC) with no restrictions. There are a few other states that permit it, but only under certain circumstances.

Second cousins may marry in every state.

I don’t think cousin marriage is in any way comparable to the various perversions that the left are attempting to force us to accept.

Alabama
Alaska
California
Colorado
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia

[1010RD]

Interesting, but there is a tax and control issue also.

Government targeted women as a tax base and worked hard to get them out of the house.

European governments even set female employment level goals.

It is more tangled than just simple unions.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“We might as well make this as stupid as possible...until someone starts to grasp the whole game being played out.”

Can someone with multiple personalities marry their self (selves)??

[Nowhere Man]

Full-speed ahead. I also believe that cousins should be allowed to marry...and people should have the right to marry animals. We might as well make this as stupid as possible...until someone starts to grasp the whole game being played out.

Before the mid-1800s, states didn’t control marriage or require licenses. If you wanted a marriage, you went to a minister....got noted in a Bible....and walked out a couple. This entire game of state-recognized marriage started up because of issues of joint-property and the guys who were marrying in one town...leaving suddenly...and popping up 40 miles away married to another woman.

To point this out...we’ve had “union” problems for decades. I can remember in my hometown...there were two sisters and one brother who decided to stay at home....and never left. One became a school teacher...one a gardener...and the brother was a local roofer. When I left in 1977...they were all three in their 60’s and still in the family house. There are all kinds of issues here...where the three probably should have had some kind of “union” status and able to own joint-property between them. I see the same issue with two guys who are best friends and own a restaurant for three decades...they ought to have some kind of union status.

We need to stand back and review this whole game. The gays have turn marriage into a joke. We might as well return the concept of marriage in 1780...let it be a non-state matter and just marry in a church. If you want a union of any type....even if its five guys who want the union...go for it and be state-recognized.

That's the way it should be, maybe there should be some form of civil unions from whatever purpose they are needed. Marriage, I guess deep down inside, I'm a libertarian on the issue (even though I have my own preferences) where it should ideally be left to the man and woman and their church/whatever and there should be no govenrment involvement or enforcement of standards. The way it is now, we do have the government involved and in so doing, they means all of us are part of the picture and we all should have our voices heard. In this case, I would be agaist the government recognition of same sex marriages.

The only "good thing" about some of the New-England states is at least they are going about it the more honest way of going through the process (at least it looks like it to me) that it takes to change the laws instead of using judicial fiat. The bad side is that sometimes it ignores the will of the people, I guess it is time to throw their butts out and go through the process to stop it.

The bad thing is that if this is allowed, by law, then other forms of marriages should be, at least on a defacto standard. If two homosexuals/lesbians marry, how can we deny a polygamist from marrying, he will say it is his right to do so and he would be right since homosexuals can marry. Then it goes on further, how can we deny a guy who wants to marry his goat and so on? We opened up a can of worms here.

Getting back to the beginning, if we had a libertarian society with no marriage standards, I wouldn't care if two homosexuals consider themselves married or if a guy married his goat, deep down inside, I know in my heart that is wrong, but if we saction it as a governmental system, then I do care.