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Larry Dupuis, legal director of the ACLU of Wisconsin, said using GPS to track someone's car goes beyond observing them in public and should require a warrant.

"The idea that you can go and attach anything you want to somebody else's property without any court supervision, that's wrong," he said. "Without a warrant, they can do this on anybody they want."

For once, I agree with the ACLU.

1 posted on 05/10/2009 6:41:21 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress

It’s such a simple concept/scenario that even the ACLU can get it right.


2 posted on 05/10/2009 6:42:42 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Huntress

It sure seems like “search.”


3 posted on 05/10/2009 6:44:38 PM PDT by gusopol3
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But if you buy a GM vehicle, you get OnStar, right? At what point do I take the “number of the beast” serious? Law Enforcement does not mean Law Entrapment.
4 posted on 05/10/2009 6:45:41 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (It's only recoil)
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If I attached a GPS tracker to the police chiefs car and it was discovered and traced back to me the police would say it is a “suspicious device” “possible bomb” a “threat” and I’d have so many stacked charges against me I’d never get out of jail.


5 posted on 05/10/2009 6:46:47 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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Should be perfectly legal, then, to destroy such a device when you find it on your car.

Or take it off and reattach it to someone else’s car! If the cops can, why can’t you? Maybe on their wife’s or kid’s car, eh? Or a city bus? UPS vehicle?

New opportunity: a scanner for determining whether the police have GPS-tagged you.

Observation: I bet they don’t get these devices from NSA. I bet they’re off the shelf. FOIA to find out who makes them so you can develop countermeasures.

Further observation: glad I don’t live in Wisconsin.


6 posted on 05/10/2009 6:47:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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If I had a GPS tracker on my car, they would find my movements pretty boring; to work, back home, to work, back home, to the market, back home. Nonetheless, I woud rip it of if I found on my vehicle.


7 posted on 05/10/2009 6:47:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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We can only hope that some individual or organization in Wisconsin will take aim and thrust this issue into a Federal Appeals Court and shepard the case all the way to the SCOTUS if necessary ... And sooner better than later for obvious reasons.

God Help us all if there is no courage to do so...


10 posted on 05/10/2009 6:58:07 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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Well, since they can attach anything they want to somebody’’s vehicle, does it follow that the owner of the vehicle has a right to remove this little doohickey from his private property and throw it into the nearst trash can? What does the test of reasonableness say about this


14 posted on 05/10/2009 7:05:06 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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...using GPS to track someone's car goes beyond observing them in public and should require a warrant.

Easily. Sure, driving down the street your position is public. Suppose I drive onto private property - a large ranch where I can't be publicly observed. I'm on private property, they have no right to obtain my position.

The device is some small amount of weight. That affects my gas mileage, shock absorber and tire wear... (ok, small but...) As an electrical device it represents some increased risk of igniting a fire in a collision... These guys are overstepping.

16 posted on 05/10/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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Shouldn’t the use of this device be considered stalking?


19 posted on 05/10/2009 7:22:45 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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This sound like something the KGB would do. Do we live in the USSA?


20 posted on 05/10/2009 7:36:03 PM PDT by packman
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21 posted on 05/10/2009 7:43:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" is being shipped from the printer.)
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Truly frightening.


23 posted on 05/10/2009 7:46:15 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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The Wisconsin Court's descision can be read here.

I find the decision most troubling, because the court would not have had to rule on legality and constitutionality the police using a GPS device without a warrant. In this case, the police did obtain a warrant to track the defendant, and the defendant's appeal challenged the validity of the warrant. Instead of simply upholding the validity of the warrant, the court, at the state's urging, gratuitously held that the state did not need a warrant in this case. The court overstepped its bounds by addressing an issue that was not properly before it.

24 posted on 05/10/2009 7:51:42 PM PDT by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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Wisconsin police can attach GPS to cars to secretly track anybody's movements without obtaining search warrants

Ridiculously unconstitutional.
40 posted on 05/13/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by mysterio
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