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No way it's torture
World Net Daily ^ | May 19, 2009 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 05/19/2009 11:13:47 AM PDT by jazusamo

It is a misnomer to call the techniques employed in the extraction of information from terrorists "enhanced" anything. They should simply be called "basic interrogation techniques."

The word enhanced, by definition, means to augment with improved, advanced or sophisticated features. Therein lies my complaint in part. Forced nakedness, sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation, prolonged isolation, sensory bombardment (e.g., prolonged loud music and/or bright lights), scriptural desecration, simulated drowning, i.e., waterboarding, and stressful positions are not enhanced or extreme, nor are they torture.

Torture would be a battery with cables connected to one's more personal or sensitive areas. Torture would be being placed in a stressful position that caused bones to break or legs and arms to pop out of their sockets. Torture is pliers to fingers, hammers to toes, and the removal of teeth by blunt force trauma. Rough interrogation is being beaten until the person is bloodied and permanently disfigured beyond recognition.

Keeping someone awake is not torture, nor is it sophisticated. Keeping bright lights on in a room with the temperature turned up is not torture. It is being made uncomfortable. And the fact that the United Nations, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Lawyers Guild, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the Council of Europe Commission for Human Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch argue to the contrary doesn't make it so.

Understand leftists' dedication to tyranny and tolerance of terror in Jamie Glazov's "United in Hate"

Where were these groups when barbaric Islamic pagans were beheading reporter Danny Pearl and the American contractor Nick Berg? I don't recall the ACLU or the National Lawyers Guild offering demonstrative outrage over that. How many offers did Mrs. Pearl receive from the International Committee of the Red Cross or Human Rights Watch to advocate on her behalf?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; eit; terrorism; torture
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To: gondramB
once for two hours and once for seven hours, depriving the inmate of his shirt, exposing him to the sun, denying his requests for hydration, and refusing to allow him the opportunity to use the bathroom.

A few differences - seven hours in the sun, without water or a shirt on, could potentially be fatal (heat stroke and sun poisoning). Waterboarding, especially under the extremely controlled conditions in which we practiced it, isn't torture.

Torture leaves long-lasting, if not permanent, scars. Individuals who've been waterboarded show NO ill effects within minutes, if not seconds.

21 posted on 05/19/2009 12:15:44 PM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: Terabitten
...show NO ill effects within minutes, if not seconds

Less damaging than my mother in law's cooking?

22 posted on 05/19/2009 12:33:18 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: jazusamo
A terrorist can be waterboarded in the morning and start at shortstop in the afternoon for the terrorist intramural softball team. That's not torture. The scumbag liberals have never served their nation in the military and simply haven't the slightest clue. Here are descriptions of real torture:

Russian commandos describe torture of Chechens

23 posted on 05/19/2009 12:57:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That's not torture. The scumbag liberals have never served their nation in the military and simply haven't the slightest clue.

Torture is not the Right Argument; Geneva Convention Rights are the Right Argument.

Those who where a uniform, identify with a country with Identity tags are covered under the Geneva Convention. And thus they are Exempted by the Geneva Convention from specified forms of Torture.

This reduced the Use of Torture in modern times.

The Convention was extended to those Without Uniforms, Without Country Identification and without Identity tags, by the Liberal with foolish minds.

Professing themselves to be wise, THEY PROTECT TERRORISTS WHO VIOLATE THE GENEVA CONVENTION BY NOT FOLLOWING IT.

The Argument should be about what the Geneva Convention was for and how it SUPPRESSED TERRORISM by Exposing those outside the convention TO TORTURE. DOH!

24 posted on 05/19/2009 1:12:26 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Lancey Howard

Some years back I read some on the atrocities committed by Mujahideen and Taliban, they make torture a science. Our troops have been subjected to the same type torture before being murdered by Muslim scum in these wars, the RATS make me sick when they speak of EIT’s being torture.


25 posted on 05/19/2009 1:18:33 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If these clowns can lay down in the street and put on a demonstation of it, and get up and walk away feeling all nice and self-righteous about it; it aint torture.


26 posted on 05/19/2009 1:40:02 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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