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Honda Insight Hybrid [American Drivers Get Ready]
Sunday Times (London) ^ | May 17, '09 | Jeremy Clarkson

Posted on 05/23/2009 1:04:17 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

Much has been written about the Insight, Honda's new low-priced hybrid. So far, though, you have not been told what it's like as a car; as a tool for moving you, your friends and your things from place to place. So here it comes. It's terrible. Biblically terrible. It doesn't work. Acceleration is poor. And the sound is worse. So you're sitting there with the engine screaming its head off, and your ears bleeding, and you're doing only 23 mph and you're thinking things can't get any worse, and then they do because you run over a small piece of grit. There's more. Normally, Hondas feel as though they've been screwed together by eye surgeons. This model, however, feels as if it's been made from steel so thin, you could read through it. And the seats, finished in pleblon, are designed specifically, it seems, to ruin your skeleton.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: automakers; cafe; chat; honda; hybrids
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To: Old Sarge

“Government-mandated automobiles - ‘The People’s Car’ - have happened in Socialist nations before...”

Excellent, excellent point, Old Sarge!


41 posted on 05/23/2009 2:04:51 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: dalereed
The Chevy "Spark"

GM already sells the Spark in China, South Africa and Singapore as Chevrolet spark and in Europe under the badge Chevrolet matiz.(8L and 1.0 l engine cranking out 38 and 48.8 KW)

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Batteries not included...

42 posted on 05/23/2009 2:05:11 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

The India car, the Tata-Nina looks better, and is a better bargain. $2,500 vs $17,000 for the Sparky.


43 posted on 05/23/2009 2:10:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: squidward

What is the Ford Escape price tag these days? It’s a nice looking vehicle. Why do you like it?

Since the massive auto bailouts WITH OUR MONEY, Husband and I are going to replace our current vehicles with Fords when they die...if Ford keeps it’s nose clean!

(You can FreepMail me if you want...)


44 posted on 05/23/2009 2:12:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Old Sarge

Right - and Hitler was a prime sponsor of what became the VW “beetle.”


45 posted on 05/23/2009 2:12:39 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I personally heard from an Allstate actuary that the insurance rates will increase enormously. This is because a whole series of scientifically conducted crash tests have demonstrated what physicists have known since Newton - that WEIGHT is a built-in safety factor.


46 posted on 05/23/2009 2:17:48 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Thank you I have been looking for a picture like this for months.


47 posted on 05/23/2009 2:19:43 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Their President is nothing more than a failed empty suit and screaming racism is all they have now)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

$23,500. with all the options.


48 posted on 05/23/2009 2:22:36 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Re Chevy VOLT. -—> Michigan to Receive a $1.7 Billion Jumpstart
Four major manufacturers of batteries for hybrid and electric cars are investing more than $1.7 billion to build new manufacturing plants in Michigan.

The companies — A123Systems, Johnson Controls, LG Chem-Compact Power and KD Advanced Battery Group — secured the tax credits to build the facilities, which could create 6,700 jobs for a state economy that is intertwined with the fortunes of the struggling American automakers.
As those companies focus on producing more fuel-efficient vehicles, Michigan is positioning itself to become the “advanced battery capital of the world,” Michigan Governor Jennifer M. Granholm said in a statement on Tuesday.

“Today marks a defining moment for Michigan’s future as we see a new industry begin to take root and grow new jobs,” she said.

Gov. Granholm signed legislation in January for $335 million in refundable tax credits to bring battery developers to Michigan. Last week, she boosted those incentives up to $555 million, putting Michigan in contention for up to $2 billion in federal advanced-battery development grants, according to a statement issued by the governor’s office.

Based on the recommendations of the Michigan Economic Development Corp. (MEDC), the Michigan Economic Growth Authority (MEGA) approved a total of $543.5 million in tax credits for the battery companies’ expansions.

A123Systems has secured $125.2 million in tax breaks in order to open a new production plant in Livonia, MI. The Massachusetts-based developer of lithium-ion batteries is investing $600 million in the new facility, which is expected to create more than 5,000 new jobs.

“We expect that our planned new facilities in Michigan will serve as a global product center, powering a new generation of cleaner, more fuel efficient cars and trucks,” said David Vieau, president and chief executive officer of A123.

The company recently partnered with Chrysler to supply battery cells and systems for the car manufacturer’s forthcoming ENVI line of electric cars. A123 has also been commissioned to produce battery cells for Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp. (SAIC), the maker of China’s first hybrid electric vehicle.

A123 already received $10 million from the state in November, for the purpose of creating a research and development center focused on batteries for the automobile, defense and alternative energy industries. The R&D institution will be based in the new Livonia facility, performing research projects with the University of Michigan and Michigan State University.

Milwaukee-based Johnson Controls - Saft Advanced Power Solutions (JCS) plans to invest $220 million to construct its first U.S. cell manufacturing facility for lithium-ion batteries for hybrid and electric vehicles, potentially creating 498 new jobs. The battery supplier intends to build on one of its existing sites in Holland, MI.

JCS will receive $148.5 million from MEGA. The company said in a press release that it also plans to apply for a grant through the federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (AARA) next month.

JCS has been contracted to produce lithium-ion batteries for Ford’s first plug-in hybrid electric vehicle, due to debut in 2012. JCS is also developing batteries for BMW’s and Azure Dynamics’ hybrid lines, which will each be available in 2010.

Korean chemical company LG Chem, in partnership with its U.S. subsidiary Compact Power and General Motors (GM), plans to invest $200 million in a new manufacturing facility, creating a projected 300 new jobs. The company is receiving $125.2 million from the state.

LGC-CPI is the battery supplier for GM’s Chevrolet Volt, which aims to be the first mass-produced extended-range electric vehicle. The Volt is scheduled to make its debut in 2010.

KD Advanced Battery Group (KD), a composite of The Dow Chemical Co., Kokam America Inc. and Townsend Ventures LLC, is making the largest capital investment, with a $665 million, 800,000-square-foot manufacturing plant. The joint venture formed for the sole purpose of building and operating the facility, which will produce its patented Superior Lithium Polymer Battery and would likely employ about 885 people.

KD was approved for $144.6 million in tax credits by MEGA.

http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=B7F34F063835EBD28A47DA19E66308F9


49 posted on 05/23/2009 2:23:29 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

oops $20,435 - $33,725 for 2009’s


50 posted on 05/23/2009 2:23:38 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I wouldn’t have an electric, hybrid, or small vehicle if it was free.


51 posted on 05/23/2009 2:24:14 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Trueblackman

No probs! ;-)


52 posted on 05/23/2009 2:24:31 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Does that include the soft-serve ice cream machine and chilled salad bar? LOL!

Actually, that’s not too bad, considering I’ve never paid more than $10K for a car in 33 years. ;)


53 posted on 05/23/2009 2:24:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Interesting. A question for anybody: Since Mercedes, Volvo, Jaguar, and a host of “foreign” cars are owned by American firms what’s to prevent Congress from requiring them to conform to our CAFE standards for import to the domestic market?


54 posted on 05/23/2009 2:25:35 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Isabel C.

Arrest the squashed one for impeading traffic!


55 posted on 05/23/2009 2:25:43 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Impala64ssa

If they are going to sell Tatas in the US, they will need to enhance them with silicone.


56 posted on 05/23/2009 2:26:59 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

HA! HA! “Many a truth is said in jest.” - Shakespeare


57 posted on 05/23/2009 2:27:56 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: MediaMole
"If they are going to sell Tatas in the US, they will need to enhance them with silicone."

by the time they put air bags and all the other government mandated garbage on them,plus Obama tax, they'll cost $30,000. We could have a lot of nice cars in this country if it wasn't for the government.

58 posted on 05/23/2009 2:30:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: mylife

Very appropriate! I’ve heard that on Rush’s program and, as usual, he gets it right.


59 posted on 05/23/2009 2:30:49 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Actually, that’s not too bad, considering I’ve never paid more than $10K for a car in 33 years. ;)"

It's a crime what vehicles cost these days. I remember buying a new corvetter in 1979 for $9,800.

I paid $48,000 for my 2005 F250

60 posted on 05/23/2009 2:33:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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