Amen.
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Thoreau was a poseur. He would be very much at home in today’s world of self-invented personalities and self-justifying morality.
Amen to your amen.
If it does indeed want to elect a pro-life President, congress and get a pro-life Supreme Court; then this BS must be condemned.
Nothing will send a viewpoint to the fringes quicker than the American people thinking the people who support that cause support murder of people it doesn't like.
Remember that the heinous practice of slavery was only ended in this country by the shed blood of well more than 600,000 Americans, and the devastation of slightly less than half of the country.
Was ending slavery a sufficient cause to justify the violence and bloodshed of the Civil War?
Is legalized abortion a greater, or lesser, injustice than slavery?
The weak points in all of these arguments that we make against the murder of Tiller is the logic we use to justify the American Revolution.
On the 4th of July, we will all be singing the other side of the coin.
When it becomes necessary for oppressive chains to be thrown off because of the despotism of the government. Inasmuch as abortion is an issue of disenfranchisement (taxation without representation), and it is, then there is a point at which the oppression of the despots must be overthrown.
That, too, is the lesson of John Brown, who, in the battle hymn of the Republic, lies moldering in his grave.
When is that point? Is it when the court is fully populated with justices who publicly claim that courts “set policy?”
Murder is bad. As for George Tiller - reap the whirlwind.
I confess - I struggle to feel bad about the Tiller murder. But it was murder and the perp ought to be executed. We can’t win this war through vigilante tactics.
I wouldn’t ever do it myself. But I won’t condemn it.
I agree. I will also refuse to be swayed by the media’s hyteria. How many babies were killed on the day the Tiller was shot? How many others were murdered in America? How many raped, assault, been victims of theft, etc. To focus pity only on Tiller would be obscene. These are evil times we are in and we must be in but not of the world.
I don’t have to say I’m sorry for my pro-life viewpoint. I didn’t kill anyone, nor I incite any fool to take anybody’s life.
How come when 9-11 happened we were supposed to separate the terrorists from the “peaceful” believers of Islamic faith.
How come when an illegal alien murders someone we are supposed to separate that criminal from all the “law-abiding” illegal aliens.
But how come when some criminal kills an abortionists doctor we are supposed to beat our chest and plead “mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.”
forgetaboutit
That same law excuses the killing of millions of unborn babies.
"The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it!..."
What if he had died of a heart attack instead?
What killed him is an abstraction when I think about what he would’ve done this morning had he gotten up for work as usual.
When the law refuses to redress a crime, someone somewhere is apt to take the law into his own hands.
Most of us would pray for the abortionist’s soul, and try to get him saved, trusting on the holy spirit to do his work in the man’s soul. But he was in a church that didn’t notice there was anything wrong.
We have a “church” that refused to tell him he was wrong, and we have an unrepentant abortionist serving the sacraments, and using his church membership for cover as he defends the indefensible in the press.
In the United States, you can be put to death for murder, usually only if there are “special circumstances” such as serial murder or murder for hire. Tiller was guilty of both serial murder “and” murder for hire, but he practiced a protected form of murder so there was no legal recourse. So the law of “karma” kicked in and now he faces a higher court.
Its a tragedy that Tiller wasted the life God gave him, and its a shame it ended under such crummy circumstances.
I love Dr Mohler but: "the abortions that he performed and the cause he represented" were never a headline scandal and would never have been a headline scandal. I agree that Tiller was murdered but why do I feel like a coward? The church is not doing enough. I am not doing enough. I feel no guilt for Tiller's death. Will the nation be judged for it?
I firmly believe that the day will come, and may not be far off, when abortions will be imposed by the state as in China. In that day we will have to decide whether we will defend the blood of our own unborn children because we have not defended the blood of our neighbor's children.
Psalm 94
1 O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.
2 Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud.
3 LORD, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph?
4 How long shall they utter and speak hard things? and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?
5 They break in pieces thy people, O LORD, and afflict thine heritage.
6 They slay the widow and the stranger, and murder the fatherless.
7 Yet they say, The LORD shall not see, neither shall the God of Jacob regard it.
8 Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye be wise?
9 He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?
10 He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct? he that teacheth man knowledge, shall not he know?
11 The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.
12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
13 That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be digged for the wicked.
14 For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.
15 But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it.
16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
17 Unless the LORD had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence.
18 When I said, My foot slippeth; thy mercy, O LORD, held me up.
19 In the multitude of my thoughts within me thy comforts delight my soul.
20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?
21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood.
22 But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.
23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wicked
Matthew 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
In World War 2. Some Germans thought it was appropriate to take justice into their own hands and attempted to murder Adolph Hitler with a bomb.
I imagine this only hurt the anti-holocaust issue with the undecided German population.
During the 18th and 19th Century, some slaves would sometimes try to rise up and to murder their owners or slave owners. This turned those undecided on the slave issue against them.
As you can see, violence is never works.
John Brown like Nate Turner murdered innocents to make a point.
Tiller was far from innocent.
Consider me anti-abortion, you pro-life folks while well meaning and God bless you have an agenda of universal forgivenss and life equivocation that I cannot support living and experiencing life as I have.
An unborn baby’s life to me is far more precious than Tiller or just about anything. A culture that kills it’s babies is savage and will endure God’s wrath in time as surely as the Sun rises in the east.
But good luck to all of you. I never really considered myself as being distinct from the pro-life movement but I am very much so.
I study history and have lived in hard parts of the world.
What I see here reminds me of what someone just freepmailed me.
“Like Quakers traveling through Injun Country armed only with a Bible”
count me out...but God bless all of you...I know you mean well.