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URGENT: OBAMA TO PROPOSE DIVIDING JERUSALEM :: Making The Holy City The Capital Of Palestine
Email From: http://www.JoelRosenberg.com ^ | May 20, 2009 | Joel C. Rosenberg

Posted on 06/02/2009 4:36:20 PM PDT by Iraqs Inconvenient Truth.

(Washington, D.C., May 20, 2009) — Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has just finished his visit to Washington. Full analysis on my weblog, including a link to the YouTube clip of me on Glenn Beck’s show with a former CIA analyst who says he wouldn’t care if Israel ceased to exist.

MUST WATCH:
Joel On The Glen Beck Show

That said, there’s more troubling news this morning. I’m horrified by credible reports that in his June 4th speech in Cairo, President Obama will say it is time to divide Jerusalem and make the holy city the capital of a Palestinian state.

No, Mr. President, it is not

Jerusalem is and should be the eternal, undivided capital of the Jewish people and the Jewish state. Dividing Jerusalem will not make peace. Rather, it would send a message to every Radical Islamic jihadist around the world that Israel is weak, that the Jews won’t even defend the sovereignty of their own capital, that there is “blood in the water,” and that it is time to strike Israel and wipe her off the map. Dividing Jerusalem would trigger an apocalyptic war in the Middle East the likes of which the region has never seen.

I am committed to doing everything I possibly can to educate people — and particularly U.S. and Canadian evangelical Christians — to the threats facing Israel and the West due to Radical Islam, and to the biblical responsibility we have to show unconditional love and unwavering support to Israel and the Jewish people. We’ll use radio, TV, the internet, emails and other media to get the word out. But we can’t do it alone. We want and need your help.

One idea: let’s build an alliance of one million true friends of Israel — people who love Israel, are committed to blessing her in real and practical ways, are absolutely opposed to dividing Jerusalem, and will pray faithfully for the peace of Jerusalem and the protection of all the people of the epicenter.

Currently, we have 100,000 subscribers to our Flash Traffic email updates who are committed to this cause. If each of us recruited just 10 new friends to sign up for Flash Traffic and be part of this alliance, we would be able to communicate new information, new projects, and new prayer requests to them instantly. We would be able to mobilize people for pro-Israel events. We would be able to mobilize people to write to President Obama and their Congressional leaders to stand with Israel, not against her. We would be able to work together to stockpile food, clothing, medical supplies and other aid in Israel ahead of the next war. And we would be able to encourage one another with the knowledge that we are not alone in this important fight.

Will you join us?

For more on President Obama’s plan to divide Jerusalem — and to read analysis of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit:

Joel Rosenberg’s Weblog

Will you help us build a global alliance of 1 million true friends of Israel? Click here to sign up for Flash Traffic.



COME TO ISRAEL AND ATTEND THE “JERUSALEM PRAYER SUMMIT”

Israel has never needed the unconditional love and unwavering support of evangelical Christians more than she does today. Yes, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas are making threats. But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a great and mighty God. He is calling us to bless Israel and show her our love in a real and practical way.

That’s why we are moving forward with The Joshua Fund’s next “Prayer & Vision Trip,” and we would love for you to join us. It will be held November 5-17, 2009, and culminate in our first-ever “Jerusalem Prayer Summit.”

And now, by God’s grace, we have been able to reduce the price by $600 per couple.

If you have never been to the Holy Land, it is hard to describe what a profound spiritual effect such a journey can have on you and your family. You may have heard others say God’s Word seemed to “come alive” in a new way when they walked where Jesus walked, from the shores of Galilee to the Mount of Olives and into the streets of Jerusalem. Well, it’s true, and I believe our 2009 Israel trip will allow you to experience this for yourself and intensify your desire to walk closely with Jesus Christ.

If you have been to Israel before, this trip will be a great opportunity to deepen your understanding of how powerfully the Lord is moving there. I will teach at key locations and answer your questions about the future of the epicenter. You will have the opportunity to meet with and pray for local pastors and ministry leaders. We are arranging for you to spend time engaged in a practical Joshua Fund ministry project to bless the poor and needy. What’s more, you will participate in a two-day conference to pray for the peace of Jerusalem at this critical hour.

We can take up to 300 people, and to make your experience as personal and special as possible, you will be assigned to one of seven buses of about 45 people. Each bus will be hosted by a Joshua Fund staff or board member or couple, or one of our close allies. You will ride that bus with your host every day, and in the process you’ll get to know the people on your bus, study the Bible with them, pray with and for them, discover Israel together with them, ask questions with them, and thus form a small community. Lord willing, I will rotate through the buses to get to know you and answer your questions. Each bus will also have a professional, licensed Israeli tour guide who know every detail of the country inside and out.

Please click the link below, learn more, pray about it, and then — if the Lord gives you the green light — please sign up and come with us, while there is still space.

As always, we will do our best to keep you up-to-date on the kinds of projects we are doing, and brief you on how those projects are proceeding. We will also let you know about the kinds of projects we are developing for the future. In no way do we want to pressure anyone to give financially. We fully believe the Lord will provide for the needs of the people we seek to serve. But if you or others wish to help, we welcome your support, and all financial gifts are tax-deductible.

Visit Israel With The Joshua Fund



If you would like to make a contribution to the on-going work of The Joshua Fund please make your check payable to “The Joshua Fund” and send to:

The Joshua Fund
18950 Base Camp Road
Monument, Colorado 80132-8009

Thanks so much and may the Lord richly bless you and your family as you bless Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus — especially at critical moment in history of the epicenter.

Must See Video Interview:



The Current State Of Israel Video

Valuable Links:

Joel C. Rosenberg

Joel Rosenberg’s Weblog

Best,
Dan

The Truth Of Iraq 2009


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; antichrist; bho44; bhomiddleeast; holyland; israel; jerusalem; joelcrosenberg; nationofislam; noiinthewh; obama; palestine; tm
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To: sheik yerbouty

Yes, it was and it was orchestrated by the ‘dark side.’


321 posted on 06/03/2009 8:18:35 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: FreepShop1
Americans will look back on this time in our history and just shake their heads in disgust.

This is what I thought about the Clinton Administration. Who would ever have imagined that it could go from bad to WORSE! There is something VERY wrong with the Democrat and Liberal mind. These people are not of our culture and they are killing us.

322 posted on 06/03/2009 8:21:26 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: TheOldLady

He IS hard to believe, isn’t he? And what’s happening to our great nation is hard to believe as well.


323 posted on 06/03/2009 8:23:28 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Many here do see it. Some are willfully blind.


324 posted on 06/03/2009 8:25:53 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

That’s what I always say, too. He’s the pre-cursor.


325 posted on 06/03/2009 8:26:33 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Windflier; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; ...

Here’s the first part of the transcript from C2C 21 May:

NOTE, I ended up more paraphrasing vs exact transcript to save time.

END TIMES PING LIST “A” LIST PING

GN = GEORGE NOORY

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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/05/21

PATRICK HERON
RE BIBLICAL PROPHECY RE USA IN PROPHECY

PH: A lot of people say that the USA is not mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Well, I, I would disagree. I think the USA is all over Revelation chapter 17 and chapter 18. And It starts out where the angel says to John—the Revelator . . . Come, I will show you the punishment of the Great Prostitute who sits on many waters.

PH: Now what does that mean? Now what I’d like you to do, George, is I’m going to give you; I’m going to go thru this stuff here and I’m going to give a number of clues.

GN: Alright.

PH: At the end of the clues,

GN: You’re testing me, aren’t you?

PH: I’m going to test you. I don’t want you to give me an answer until we have all the clues given. OK?

GN: Alright. Let’s do this, too. I’m connected to the audience by computer and fast blasting . . .

PH: OK, So he says, come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute that sits on many waters. What does this mean? And it says so he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet … beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had 7 heads and 10 horns. [Rev 17:3] and upon her forehead was a name written: mystery, BABYLON THE GREAT; THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

GN: That’s clue 1?

PH: Well, Possibly. Here’s clue one: And it says she had a golden cup in her hand. What the heck does that mean? When you go down to Rev 17:15, it tells you—This is 2 clues coming up here: And he said unto me, the waters that you saw where the prostitute sits are peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. OK. And then it says the woman that you saw is that great city that reigns over the kings of the earth. So, two clues here—the woman which you saw sitting on the water is a great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.

PH: In other words, the kings of the earth; these rulers that we spoke of are going to reign from this city. They’re going to have their headquarters in this city. They’re going to issue their orders from this great city. That’s what it means when it says that the woman which you saw is that great city which reigns over the earth.

PH: And it says that the waters which you saw where the woman, the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. In other words, the population of this great powerful city is multi-cultural, multi-ethnic. That makes up the population of this great city. OK. Coming up, the next thing, it says . . .

PH: . . . nothing to do [with Babylon in Iraq]
[Too time consuming to try and do verbatim . . . going to switch to getting most of the key words and phrases and the gist of what’s said]
PH: This city is called Babylon, right? Now a lot of people think that this is Babylon out in Iraq. It’s got nothing to do with that. If you go back to chapter 11 in Revelation, it talks about ‘Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified.’
PH: Well we all know our Lord wasn’t crucified in Sodom or Egypt, He was crucified in Jerusalem. Sodom and Egypt are figures of speech given to Jerusalem. Because when these guys congregate on the earth, they’re going to congregate in both Jerusalem to a great degree and in this great powerful modern city we’re going to find out what it is right now. So they are figures of speech. Sodom and Egypt referring to Jerusalem and Babylon referring to this mighty city coming in the future.

PH: So this Babylon is a modern city which is great in power & influence in these LAST DAYS. That’s another clue.

PH: The next one—He says the 10 horns, the 10 rulers which you saw upon the place; they shall hate the prostitute, the city, in other words, and shall make her desolate and naked and eat her flesh. At some point in the future, these 10 rulers of these geopolitical nations are going to turn on this city are going to hate her and it says & they are going to make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

PH: Several times it says in chapter18 of Rev this place is going to burn with fire. It says, For instance, talking about the great merchants of the earth—standing afar off for fear of torment alas, alas, the great city Babylon, that mighty city, in one hour your judgment has come. And it talks about the merchants which were made rich by her should stand afar off for fear of torment, weeping and wailing & cries when they saw the smoke of the burning city . . .

GN: SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ATTACK SOMEWHERE.

PH: ABSOLUTELY, THERE’S GOING TO BE AN ATTACK. Later on, at the end of the book of Rev, there’s going to be a huge Mexican standoff between a big army from the East numbering 200 million and the AntiChrist and his powers from the West—which is going to happen in the Valley of Megido in Northern Israel. Somebody’s going to hit the button and then what John said he saw was flashes of lightening, peals of thunder; he heard rumblings; and then he said, a MIGHTY earthquake; and he says no earthquake was ever like this before. And he said all the nations of the earth fell down.

GN: That sounds atomic, to me or an asteroid—what do you think?

PH: No. Because the only thing that’s going to make all the cities fall down at the same time, George, is a nuclear strike. . . . John . . . at 90 years old . . . 2000 years ago didn’t have words like nuclear . . . flashes of light, peals of thunder, rumblings

PH: And this city is going to be burned with fire. And it says the merchants, which were made rich with her, . . . another clue . . . it speaks many times of the merchants being made rich by her.

PH: . . . two more hints . . . the merchants, rich business people . . .who waxed or grew rich through the abundance of her delicacies and the abundance of her delicacies is talking about is their extravagant luxuries. You’re talking about extravagant luxuries there. They’re going to weep and morn for no one buys their merchandise any more.

GN: Don’t say anything. I’m not done with all the clues.
PH: [Rev 18:11-14] Lists a long list of merchandise . . . So, what’s this list of merchandise telling you—it’s telling you can buy anything in this city. . . . in one hour it’s great riches have come to naught.

PH: . . . And it says every shipmaster [another clue] all who travel by ship (another clue), the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea (another clue) . . . stood afar off and cried when they saw her burning . . . for in one hour she’s made desolate . . . telling you that this city has a huge sea trade; a center of world trade;
PH: Everybody, entrepreneurs . . . have made vast fortunes by trading with this city. . .

PH: Then we jump up to get some more clues Jer 49 & 50

GN: I could guess this city now . . .

PH: No, I’ve got some more clues . . .

GN: Now, this city is a key to this entire puzzle, isn’t it?

PH: We know it’s talking about this city . . . the day of vengeance . . . the day of wrath, the day of Tribulation; The Great and Terrible Day of The Lord.

GN: Back in a moment . . . OK, Back to your clues, Patrick

PH: Jer . . . So it says here . . . concerning Babylon and the land of the Babylonians . . . a metaphor . . . next clue

PH: in Jer 49 even if Babylon reaches the sky and fortifies her lofty strongholds. Abadon and Apollyon = destroyer
She surrenders, her towers fall, her walls are torn down since this is the vengeance of The Lord.

Here’s a summary of the clues:

1. sea trading city with a huge harbor

2. everything is for sale that anyone could ever want to buy

3. it is the financial center for world trade and commerce. If this place sneezes, everyone else gets pneumonia around the world.

4. Businesses have made fortunes by trading with this city.

5. The city has a multicultural population drawn from all corners of the world.

6. The city has high towers and lofty strongholds that reach the sky.

7. The headquarters of the government of the AntiChrist will rule from it’s headquarters in this wealthy city.

8. This city is described as the mother of prostitutes and has a cup in her hand and sits by many waters.

PH What’s the city, George.

GN: Is this the city that houses the government of the AntiChrist in the future but may not necessarily do it now?
PH: No, we are in the END TIMES and it has to be here now.

= = = = = = = = =
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SO, FREEPERS, WHAT’S THE CITY?


326 posted on 06/03/2009 8:31:48 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Do you have a link to the video?


327 posted on 06/03/2009 8:31:56 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Iraqs Inconvenient Truth.

Man, I have been reading a book for 50+ years that doesn’t hook up with this.


328 posted on 06/03/2009 8:32:15 AM PDT by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: Marysecretary

You can search for

OBAMA DECEPTION on YOUTUBE if they haven’t removed it.

Will see . . .

And get back to you here.


329 posted on 06/03/2009 8:33:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary

HERE’S PART 1

YOU CAN LINK TO THE OTHERS STEP BY STEP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE&feature=PlayList&p=9657816B36974DC0&index=0&playnext=1


330 posted on 06/03/2009 8:34:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NewLand
Bears repeating:
Zechariah 12:3 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. Zechariah 12:8-9 8 On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. 9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.
331 posted on 06/03/2009 8:36:47 AM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Gamecock

. . .

your guess as to the city involved?

PING to the above post.


332 posted on 06/03/2009 8:37:00 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary

Even non-religious has to see something ain’t right in a large sense.


333 posted on 06/03/2009 8:38:30 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: SkyPilot

The “obamanation” that causes desolation?


334 posted on 06/03/2009 8:41:38 AM PDT by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: agrace
How would you define classic premil as it contrasts dispensationalism? I’ve read a little but not much, but have wholly rejected dispensationalism based on what I find in scripture. I’d love to hear your perspective.

The single biggest difference between them is over the Church vs the Nation of Israel in future events. Here's an excerpt from the thread Four Views on the Millennium:

The historical premillennialist's view interprets some prophecy in Scripture as having literal fulfillment while others demand a semi-symbolic fulfillment. As a case in point, the seal judgments (Revelation 6) are viewed as having fulfillment in the forces in history (rather than in future powers) by which God works out his redemptive and judicial purposes leading up to the end.

Rather than the belief of an imminent return of Christ, it is held that a number of historical events (e.g., the rise of the Beast and the False Prophet) must take place before Christ's Second Coming. This Second Coming will be accompanied by the resurrection and rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18); this will inaugurate the millennial reign of Christ. The Jewish nation, while being perfectly able to join the church in the belief of a true faith in Christ, has no distinct redemptive plan as they would in the dispensational perspective. The duration of the millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:1-6) is unsure: literal or metaphorical.


335 posted on 06/03/2009 8:42:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: chickpundit

On that score . . . he’s merely an also ran . . . a forerunner.


336 posted on 06/03/2009 8:42:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iraqs Inconvenient Truth.

Okay, so Obama simultaneously alienates our allies while promising the Arabs something he can’t possibly deliver on, all in one speech before a foreign audience. And people said Bush was inept at diplomacy?

For plenty of reasons I don’t think I need to go into here, giving up half of Jerusalem is not an option for Israel, and I doubt even the considerable leverage we have there will be enough for any Israeli leader to commit political and potentially national suicide. Getting the Arabs’ hopes up on this issue isn’t exactly going to help chances of peace, especially since it looked like we were making progress towards getting most Arabs to accept that hoping for the recovery of Jerusalem was futile. He just set the “peace process” back at least a decade.


337 posted on 06/03/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: mmanager

????


338 posted on 06/03/2009 8:43:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iraqs Inconvenient Truth.

Epicenter 2.0 in action. Joel Rosenberg foresaw a lot of things.


339 posted on 06/03/2009 8:44:49 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Sorry, but it still boggles my mind

that ANY rational Bible reader . . . much less Born again Believer

could possibly believe such UNBiblical stuff.


340 posted on 06/03/2009 8:45:33 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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