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To: Quix

Just for the sake of context, I was a pretrib, Euro-AC, Gog is pre-70th week person for years. But something just never quite sat right, so I decided to throw out all the popular teachings I had absorbed sans independent study and just read the text. What a wild ride it turned out to be - now I’m a post-trib (or at least pre-wrath), Islamic-AC, Gog happens later person. :)

Here’s how I think the text lays it out (with the humble caveat that my human understanding is imperfect and seen through a glass darkly).

The Gog war is the catalyst for the abomination of the holy place, so it basically begins in the middle. The Gog invasion violates the covenant made 3 1/2 years earlier; the AC then proceeds to Jerusalem and defiles the holy place (which doesn’t have to be an erected temple - a tabernacle will do just fine). The war continues basically til the end, God’s ultimate response being what it is - His wrath as described in Revelation, Ezekiel, Joel et al.

This view was gleaned from the whole of prophetic scripture - major and minor prophets alike - with Matt 24 as the initial jumping off point. It’s amazing - everything, and I mean everything, lines up with Matt 24’s basic timeline. Another very good pivot point is the 6th seal - the details of that event are everywhere in prophetic scripture, probably a couple dozen times (I have a list somewhere) and really help to literally placemark certain parts of the text as to where they fit time-wise. It’s remarkable stuff.

Anyway, thanks for the response. Oh and I agree - Gog is revisited at the end of the millennium, however briefly. And I love that verse you quoted from Amos - indeed. Another along those lines - Prov 25:2, It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.


226 posted on 06/02/2009 9:09:56 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace

Quite plausible.

I’m not particularly dogmatic about a lot of END TIMES sequence stuff.

I’ve never found anyone I felt was 100% accurate on timing or sequencing.

I feel God has some mystery in it for HIS purposes . . . and that He will make it clear as He chooses . . . typically at the last minute or after the fact or some such.

The key issues of SALVATION VIA CHRIST’S BLOOD; HE CAME IN THE FLESH; HE IS COMING AGAIN FOR HIS OWN ETC. I’m insistent on.

Lots of other stuff is inconsequential to Salvation but something Believers ought to be read up on so that they can at least recognize that Scripture is being fulfilled before our eyes and therefore other such Scriptures are going to be fulfilled in relatively short order.

imho.

Certainly we all see through the glass darkly.


244 posted on 06/02/2009 9:41:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: agrace

I tend to agree with the pre-wrath rapture. I was pre-trib when I first started my journey but no more.


316 posted on 06/03/2009 8:09:41 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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