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NRA Appeals Seventh Circuit Ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court
NRA-ILA ^ | 06/04/09 | unk

Posted on 06/04/2009 5:59:45 AM PDT by epow

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To: Dead Corpse
So you think the Founders, who wrote the Constitution and BoR in the late 1700's used an 1828 dictionary to do so?

That's the first American dictionary. If ignorance were gold, you would be wealthy.

781 posted on 06/25/2009 1:35:44 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
How about some more TJ quotes? From HERE.

"What is true of every member of the society, individually, is true of them all collectively; since the rights of the whole can be no more than the sum of the rights of the individuals." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:455, Papers 15:393

"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." --Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819.

Sounds like the political class of operative Anarchy I subscribe to as a "perfect" system. Clearly unworkable, but this does not mean we shouldn't try to get as close to that kind of freedom as we can.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." --Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart, 1791. ME 8:276

Me too TJ. Me too...

Lastly:
"The jealousy of the subordinate governments is a precious reliance. But observe that those governments are only agents. They must have principles furnished them whereon to found their opposition. The declaration of rights will be the text whereby they will try all the acts of the federal government. In this view, it is necessary to the federal government also; as by the same text, they may try the opposition of the subordinate governments." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:311

Knock out punch. This is what the Founders meant when they penned Art6 para 2. George Mason said something very similar in the quote I've used on this thread a number of times as well as Delegate and Sec of State Gallatin's timeless quote as well.

Of course, now you'll go back to spouting Marshall's senile failure to further prop up your "States can enslave us and take away our Rights if they want to" argument.

Yer' a broken record...

782 posted on 06/25/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave
Liar... Poor pathetic Roscoe. Still can't read.

except in private self-defense

Need a dictionary for that?

783 posted on 06/25/2009 1:42:52 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave
1806. From M-W website.

In 1806 Webster published A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language, the first truly American dictionary

Yet another Roscoe lie. He released a 70,000 word version in 1825 that wasn't published in 1828.

And what did Noah say about our Second Amendment?

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.” –Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 10 October 1787

784 posted on 06/25/2009 1:49:17 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Dead Corpse
Thanks for the collections of quotes, none of them remotely relevant to any of your assertions or the fake quotes you've been busted for.

This is what the Founders meant when they penned Art6 para 2.

Sorry, you can't lie facts into existence. Where's your cite?

785 posted on 06/25/2009 2:05:45 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
In 1806 Webster published A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language

And what was its definition of "anarchy"? You seem to have forgotten to quote it. I wonder why?

786 posted on 06/25/2009 2:11:25 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
except in private self-defense

No hunting? No target shooting?

787 posted on 06/25/2009 2:13:11 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
I already posted the relevant definition of Anarchy.

Did you miss it?

788 posted on 06/25/2009 2:17:17 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave
Both were activities outside the government concern and power.

Poor you...

789 posted on 06/25/2009 2:17:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave
Sorry, you can't lie facts into existence. Where's your cite?

Where are yours? Or this another one of those "Democrat/Republican" things where you Dems don't need to adhere to the same standards you expect from others?

790 posted on 06/25/2009 2:18:47 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Dead Corpse
And what did Noah say about our Second Amendment? “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.” –Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 10 October 1787

The Constitution didn't even exist on "10 October 1787" and the Bill of Rights wasn't ratified until December 15, 1791.

Lying is a habit with you.

791 posted on 06/25/2009 2:19:20 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I already posted the relevant definition of Anarchy.
an⋅ar⋅chy  [an-er-kee] Show IPA
–noun 1. a state of society without government or law.

Three nice foot shots coming up:

"Let this be the distinctive mark of an American that in cases of commotion, he enlists himself under no man's banner, inquires for no man's name, but repairs to the standard of the laws. Do this, and you need never fear anarchy or tyranny. Your government will be perpetual." --Thomas Jefferson

"Our falling into anarchy would decide forever the destinies of mankind, and seal the political heresy that man is incapable of self-government." --Thomas Jefferson

"The voluntary support of laws, formed by persons of their own choice, distinguishes peculiarly the minds capable of self-government. The contrary spirit is anarchy, which of necessity produces despotism." --Thomas Jefferson

Again, thanks for outing yourself.
792 posted on 06/25/2009 2:23:36 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Both were activities outside the government concern and power.

Hunting was "outside the government concern"? So much for hundreds of years of American law. After all, Dead Corpse sourcelessly contends to the contrary.

793 posted on 06/25/2009 2:25:25 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Where are yours?

Sticking in your craw.

"The reasoning that leads to those conclusions starts with the unquestioned premise that the Bill of Rights, when adopted, was for the protection of the individual against the federal government, and its provisions were inapplicable to similar actions done by the states." --Adamson v. California, 332 U.S. 46

794 posted on 06/25/2009 2:29:07 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
Because in your mind, the Constitution was conceived and written on the day it was passed. That there was no forethought as to what should go into it.

Poor you...

795 posted on 06/26/2009 5:03:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave

You can ignore definition 3 all you want. It just makes you look stupid.


796 posted on 06/26/2009 5:04:03 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave
Really... And where did one apply for a hunting license in 1793?

Take your time. We'll wait...

797 posted on 06/26/2009 5:04:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave

More activist court rulings. Try again liberal...


798 posted on 06/26/2009 5:05:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Dead Corpse
Because in your mind, the Constitution was conceived and written on the day it was passed.

No, you've simply been caught repeatedly asserting that it was written years before it actually was.

While there were actual discussions of the proposals for the creation of a federal bill of rights, as in the Federalist Papers, no. 84, those discussions stated that they would create exceptions to powers that were never actually granted to the federal government. So here's something else for you hate about the Framers.

"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and in the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers which are not granted; and on this very account, would afford a colourable pretext to claim more than were granted."
But you're free to continue claiming that the Bill of Right in the federal Constitution secretly amended the state constitutions. Willful ignorance and anarchism go together.
799 posted on 06/26/2009 10:28:47 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
More activist court rulings

Original intent. But keep on lying.

800 posted on 06/26/2009 10:30:45 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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