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Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road
The Canadian Press ^ | June 4th, 2009 | Chinta Puxley

Posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road Published Thursday June 4th, 2009 Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG - The Greyhound bus in which Vince Li attacked and dismembered fellow passenger Tim McLean last summer should be taken off the road out of respect, the victim's mother said Thursday.

Carol deDelley says there was little doubt Vince Li would remain in a mental hospital for now. But she says she worries about the coming years.

A spokeswoman for Greyhound said the notorious bus is now used in another part of Canada.

"After an extensive restoration and cleaning process and a new bus number, the bus is in service in another province," Abby Wambaugh said, declining to say whether Greyhound considered taking the bus out of commission following the tragedy.

McLean's mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, wondering whether that's where her son's life brutally ended last summer.

"The town I live in is a Greyhound stop," she said Thursday. "I can seldom leave my home, never mind get on the highway, without encountering at least one of those buses."

Li was found not criminally responsible for killing McLean in front of horrified passengers near Portage la Prairie, Man., last July. A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.

The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.

In the meantime, deDelley said the bus that became a gruesome crime scene should be taken off the road.

"That would be the respectful thing to do," she said. "Greyhound doesn't want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it's completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound."

The prospect of seeing the bus where McLean was murdered haunts many grieving the loss. In victim impact statements read before the review board, several family members and friends talked about the difficulty of seeing a Greyhound bus on the road.

"I wonder, is that the bus my son was slaughtered on?" deDelley told the hearing. "Did they ever get all the blood out? I don't want these thoughts, they just come. Since I have to travel the highway to get to the counselling and therapy sessions I require for me to cope, what choice do I have?"

Another family friend told the hearing every time she sees a Greyhound bus, she's reminded of the gruesome way McLean died.

"When I see a Greyhound bus . . . I experience a chill," Brenda Lewis told the hearing. "Bile rises into my throat and it chokes me."

Li will only be let out of the secure ward of the psychiatric facility if he is escorted at all times by two staff members and he can only leave the facility if he is accompanied by two peace officers.

"The review board is of the opinion that Mr. Li is a significant threat to the safety of the public," the board's order states.

The detailed reasons for the board's decision may be released in several months.

In its ruling, the board adopted the recommendations of Li's psychiatrist, who said Li no longer hears voices in his head but still needs to be locked up under the "highest level of security possible."

Li's case will be reviewed annually to determine if he is well enough in the future to be released into the community. Attending those hearings will force the family to relive the tragedy, deDelley said.

"Every year, to have to endure this is ridiculous."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; chinesemuslims; chinesenationals; greyhound; li; vinceli
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1 posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: fanfan

Canada ping.


2 posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Someone owes me a bus!


3 posted on 06/04/2009 12:48:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: buccaneer81
Maybe they should close the road that it occurred on, too.

No such thing as too much respect.

4 posted on 06/04/2009 12:48:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: buccaneer81

I can see being outraged that the Canadian police did nothing while the maniac was inside the bus defiling the body of their son, but I’m not sure I understand the issue here


5 posted on 06/04/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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To: buccaneer81

does she want them to shut Greyhound down?? If Li had been having a burger at the time would she want all of the fast food places closed down too?


6 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: buccaneer81

Typical. The bus was obviously involved and now it drives off scott free!

There is NO justice.


7 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:19 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: buccaneer81

As long as the head is not rolling around the floor of the bus on mountain roads, I see no problem.


8 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: buccaneer81

Give me a break. With all due respect to the victim’s family, do they really expect all places where violent crimes are committed to be taken out of commission, no longer used, left unoccupied, torn down, etc.? They did move the bus to a different province and gave it a different number. That should be enough.


9 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:33 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: buccaneer81

The BUS didn’t do anything.

This is as silly/stupid/ridiculous as Virginia Tech converting a classrooom building into a “peace” museum.


10 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:53 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: villagerjoel

Out of respect that the family won’t suffer trauma every time the see a bus, all buses should be banned from Canada.


11 posted on 06/04/2009 12:50:59 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: buccaneer81

Good thing the military doesn’t do this with our equipment in which men were killed, we’d never have a medevac helo in the air.

While I feel for the family’s loss, this is stupid. Why should they take the bus off the road unless the guys blood was so contaminated as to make the bus a biohazard?


12 posted on 06/04/2009 12:51:01 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: buccaneer81

While I can see how that would haunt this mother, to expect Greyhound to trash a $250,000 bus out of “respect” is a bit much. Maybe she could start a fundraiser and buy the bus to have as a memorial or sell for a good cause.


13 posted on 06/04/2009 12:51:42 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: buccaneer81

They could personally buy the bus and decommission it themselves...


14 posted on 06/04/2009 12:52:12 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or close the ocean down if anyone drowns in it. Out of respect, you know.


15 posted on 06/04/2009 12:52:20 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: buccaneer81

bad, bad bus.


16 posted on 06/04/2009 12:52:23 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: trumandogz

“What’s on the road, a head?”

“No no no, it’s ‘what’s on the road, ahead.’”


17 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: buccaneer81

“Greyhound doesn’t want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it’s completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound.”

What are they offering to buy the bus? Oh, nothing? Well then.....


18 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GeronL

You’re right. This makes no sense. I assume these poor people are (understandably) too wild with grief to think clearly. That story really was horrific.


19 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:09 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: refreshed
With all due respect to the victim’s family, do they really expect all places where violent crimes are committed to be taken out of commission, no longer used, left unoccupied, torn down, etc.?

Unfortunately, that appears to be the trend here and elsewhere.

20 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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