Posted on 06/06/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by traumer
Bodies from the Air France passenger plane that crashed in the Atlantic Ocean off Brazil have been found by search teams.
The news comes it was revealed the airliner sent out 24 automatic error messages in its final moments as its systems broke down one by one.
The head of the French agency probing the tragedy said signals from the jet before it disappeared showed its autopilot was not on.
Paul-Louis Arslanian said it was not clear if the autopilot had been switched off by the pilots or had stopped working because it received conflicting airspeed readings.
He said investigators were searching a zone of several hundred square miles in the Atlantic Ocean for the debris.
Plane manufacturer Airbus said an investigation found Air France Flight 447 had inconsistent readings from different instruments as it struggled in a massive thunderstorm.
The plane, with 228 people on board, disappeared early on Monday as it made its way from Rio de Janiero, heading to Paris.
The wreckage of the jet has not been found, despite days of intensive searching by air and sea.
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Yes I have thought of that. Unfortunately it seems many think in black and white terms - if it was a bomb they think the whole plane had to have been blown into a zillion pieces - or if it was not a bomb it would have happened another way.
Thanks, I needed that. Thanks again.
and wouldn’t someone try to take credit
Take-offs bother me more. I'm never really sure that damned thing will actually get into the air. Once it's in the air, I stop worrying.
I'm certain it will eventually come down...
Well, certain videos of that assent, did show a torch like plume coming out of the SRB and aimed right at the CFT.
Ping
What? You understand that there's video of the o-rings failing, allowing the ignited propellant to escape through the failed seal and it's flame pointed exactly at the hydrogen storage tank?
How much more proof do you want? Also, I wouldn't call the o-ring theory anything less than a stinging indictment of NASA, it's management and quality control measures as well as several sub-contractors, including Morton-Thiakol.
The problem with a shoulder-fired missile bringing down TWA 800 is twofold. 1st, it was at 16,000 feet, above the service ceiling for MANPADS, second, a shoulder-fired missile would have hit an engine, rather than the fuselage. Additionally, the warhead is very small and kills with shrapnel rather than the blast.
You have got to be kidding me. It was well documented that the primary 0-rings failed repeatedly. The secondary 0-rings had never failed... up to Challenger. The failure rate was correlated to ambient temperature. This was the coldest launch by far. Thus the secondard o-rings failed.
The engineers responsible for the boosters said, "DON'T LAUNCH".
BEFORE the launch they predicted a 30% chance of failure. 30%! Would you drive out of your house with those odds? NASA did.
I don't know if you've ever worked on any of your own cars or bikes, but a mostly empty or completely empty fuel tank is the single biggest hazard that home mechanics face. An empty fuel tank has tremendous explosive potential. Which is why the empty fuel tanks on military aircraft, including the 747 used as AF1, are filled with inert gas.
The TWA 800 fuel tank scenario is EXTREMELY plausible and very likely.
The Twilight Zone: Nightmare At 20,000 Feet
I feel the same on “discomfort” flying — and I get free tickets — (daughter an airline employee.) Am seriously looking into Amtrak for FreePer Wash DC trip — gonna do a “Dagny Taggert” for that one.
The TWA 800 fuel tank scenario is EXTREMELY plausible and very likely.
To put a stop to our space program which indeed happened for quite a few years afterward.
If I recall correctly (and that's a big if), before the Challenger, spectators were allowed to get close to the launch. When the space program started up again, you had to be miles away.
A rifle shot could have caused the explosion and it would look like an O-ring failure.
</tinfoil hat>
It’s possible that it was a bomb, I suppose, although supposedly the traces of bomb residue they found were from an earlier security test.
The initial reports in NY had many people who actually had seen something ascending towards the plane, which doesn’t prove anything in itself and was later explained as fireworks. But the Feds immediately launched teams of people to search the dunes. I read one report, one that was gone literally gone by the later edition of the paper, where they had found a tripod and “launching debris” in the dunes. So it wouldn’t have been a SAM (although that’s what most people thought) but some other kind of missile in that case.
I don’t know. This is all coming from what I remember and who knows what was true in those reports and what was confused and what was suppressed.
Ask George Stephanopoulos.
He might know.
Sure knew about TWA 800.
On a panel on MSNBC moderated by chrissy tingles some years ago added TWA 800 to the list of terror attacks. This panel also had jon carry as a guest and he agreed.
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