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Iran: There Will Be Blood
The Washington Note ^ | Saturday, Jun 13 2009, 10:29PM | Steve Clemons

Posted on 06/14/2009 3:23:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

(To get a feel for what is going on in the streets of Tehran, watch this linked BBC video clip.)

Last night in London after appearing on Keith Olbermann's show, I got an email from a well-connected Iranian who knows many of the power figures in the Tehran political order asking to meet me. I told him that the only place possible was Paddington on the way to Heathrow -- and there we met.

He conveyed to me things that were mostly obvious -- Iran is now a tinderbox. The right is tenaciously consolidating its control over the state and refuses to yield. There is a split among the mullahs and significant dismay with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. A gaping hole has been ripped open in Iranian society, exposing the contradictions of the regime and everyone now sees that the democracy that they believed that they had in Iranian form is a "charade."

But the scariest point he made to me that I had not heard anywhere else is that this "coup by the right wing" has created pressures that cannot be solved or patted down by the normal institutional arrangements Iran has constructed. The Guardian Council and other power nodes of government can't deal with the current crisis and can't deal with the fact that a civil war has now broken out among Iran's revolutionaries.

My contact predicted serious violence at the highest levels. He said that Ahmadinejad is now genuinely scared of Iranian society and of Mousavi and Rafsanjani. The level of tension between them has gone beyond civil limits -- and my contact said that Ahmadinejad will try to have them imprisoned and killed.

Likewise, he said, Rafsanjani, Khatami, and Mousavi know this -- and thus are using all of the instruments at their control within Iran's government apparatus to fight back -- but given Khamenei's embrace of Ahmadinejad's actions in the election and victory, there is no recourse but to try and remove Khamenei. Some suggest that Rafsanjani will count votes to see if there is a way to formally dislodge Khamenei -- but this source I met said that all of these political giants have resources at their disposal to "do away with" those that get in the way.

He predicted that the so-called reformist camp -- who are not exactly humanists in the Western liberal sense -- may try and animate efforts to decapitate the regime and "do away with" Ahmadinejad and even the Supreme Leader himself.

I am not convinced that this source "knows" these things will definitely happen but am convinced of his credentials and impressed with the seriousness of the discussion we had and his own concern that there may be political killing sprees ahead.

This is not a vision he advocates -- but one he fears.

-- Steve Clemons


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; iranviolence2009; mousavi
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To: EBH; Jim Robinson; Darksheare; The Mayor; upchuck; DoctorZIn; JustAmy; Mr. Silverback

BUMP!

Maybe a separate thread for this call to action (wear green Monday June 15)???
Kinda like our “wear red on fridays”?


101 posted on 06/14/2009 6:09:54 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"Feel free to post the interesting notes from Tweeter on this thread.

dammitdexter Video: Ahmadinejad attacked & escapes on car's roof at Sharrif University today: http://tinyurl.com/m6hz2h #iranelection #Mousavi less than 10 seconds ago from web

102 posted on 06/14/2009 6:10:41 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: CaptRon

Iran is not the backward autocratic society like their Arab neighbors. They had the Shah who moved them very quickly to modernization and they had become a prosperous nation with a good future.

That is until Jimmy Carter turned his back and aided the Islamonazis turning the country into a prison camp.

The mullahs killed more people in a few months than the Shah did his oponents over decades.

Thank you Jimmy Carter.


103 posted on 06/14/2009 6:10:52 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq

Actually that was in the back of my mind. It has been that way for years, before the Ayahtolahhs brough them back 1400 years.


104 posted on 06/14/2009 6:13:28 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: calex59

Thanks again for the reply. Does not look good for Iran, whatever the outcome. It certainly does not look as if they can count on much meaningful help from us either.


105 posted on 06/14/2009 6:20:24 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like the mullahs non-Iranian forces are out doing their dirty deeds on the public at large. Time for the Iranians to start to beat the brains out of anyone that they suspect is not Iranian, and connected to the government thugs. Kill a few tens of thousands of the RG and non-Iranian henchmen and things may start to come to a head. The mullahs must be seen as hoping on planes and exiting to their safe havens elsewhere. Better yet. Blow the damn buildings up where the mullahs mostly reside. That would be a nice start on the way to a true westernized Iranian democracy.


106 posted on 06/14/2009 6:20:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: paulycy
"Ahmadinejad attacked & escapes on car's roof at Sharrif University today."
Well that is a start in the right direction.
107 posted on 06/14/2009 6:24:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"Ahmadinejad attacked & escapes on car's roof at Sharrif University today."
Well that is a start in the right direction.

If true that is a darned shame.

108 posted on 06/14/2009 6:27:03 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
I have no idea who this guy is but maybe he has standing

jamescarr: #IranElection tinyurl.com/lo56ga "Grand Ayatollah Sanei in Iran has declared Ahmadinejad's presidency illegitimate." oh boy. The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan Twitter - 59 secs ago - Link from andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com - 5088

109 posted on 06/14/2009 6:35:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Irish Eyes

If true at least it shows some of the good folks are willing to go after the bastard. Perhaps tomorrow we will hear he was lynched and set on fire.


110 posted on 06/14/2009 6:35:53 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: CaptRon
Frankly, except for the oil thing, it wouldn’t bother me if all of the countries in the middles went at each others’ throats.

"The oil thing" is everything. With out it, the muzzies would be back in their tents.

111 posted on 06/14/2009 6:36:45 PM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: Misterioso

So we have to manage it for them, as I said in a later post.


112 posted on 06/14/2009 6:39:10 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: elpadre

With Obama in charge we’ll bail for sure.


113 posted on 06/14/2009 6:40:51 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Or he’ll turn up at Columbia.

Safe place for him.


114 posted on 06/14/2009 6:45:38 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
If true at least it shows some of the good folks are willing to go after the bastard. Perhaps tomorrow we will hear he was lynched and set on fire.

We will have to continue with alternative media because I doubt if our MSM would even report it. May the good triumph over evil.

115 posted on 06/14/2009 6:51:04 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: CaptRon

Our “management” cost us the twin towers.


116 posted on 06/14/2009 6:52:18 PM PDT by Misterioso (You've wondered where is the Twilight Zone? You're in it.)
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To: txhurl
ATimeForChange: RT @duckdaotsu: WhiteHouse: We R not supporting protesters nor accepting results.We R collecting facts now ow.ly/e4Lp #IranElection Iran Updates (VIDEO): Live-Blogging The Uprising

The WH response, at least they are saying something now.

117 posted on 06/14/2009 6:53:04 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Irish Eyes

Latest reports on Twitter is that no Iranians are now on Twitter.


118 posted on 06/14/2009 6:54:46 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Yikes- I wonder how that happened. I read somewhere earlier that Iran was asking twitter to cease all communications in Iran.

Soon there will be on one able to get the truth out..


119 posted on 06/14/2009 7:02:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

To the protestors: Keep it up! Put pressure on that regime! This is the news I’ve been waiting years to hear.


120 posted on 06/14/2009 7:05:13 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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