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Shots fired at huge election protest in Tehran
MSNBC.COM ^ | 6/15/09

Posted on 06/15/2009 9:47:12 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

TEHRAN, Iran - Shots were fired Monday at a rally by pro-reform presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, apparently by pro-government militia.

An AP photographer said militia fired at the opposition protesters, killing at least on person.

"There has been sporadic shooting out there ... I can see people running here," added a reporter of Iran's English-language Press TV.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: Girlene

Report on another thread said:

Twitter: markcount: RT @Mashouf: “10 people were shot at Tehran University a number of female students were thrown out of windows. God help us” #iranelection


51 posted on 06/15/2009 11:44:45 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: dfwgator
Exactly.

Obama will be dumped on around here whatever he does. That's Rule # 1. He gave a speech in Cairo a couple of weeks back and everyone said STFU!

The little Holocaust-denying creep and his clerical backers would love to be able to label this as an American-inspired interference in Iranian politics and use it as a rallying cry. We need to maintain a public distance from this chaos while secretly doing what we can to make life as miserable as possible for Khamenei and his henchmen.

52 posted on 06/15/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Landru

The FAIRNESS DOCTRINE on steroids . . .


53 posted on 06/15/2009 11:51:13 AM PDT by Phil V.
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To: Republic

was just over on democratic underground. Bunch of insensitive fascist over there - seem to have no concern about the students/reformers safety. No statements of support - just more bush bashing... they must all be brainwashed.


54 posted on 06/15/2009 11:51:48 AM PDT by XLSweetTea
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To: FreeReign
What exactly do you want Obama to do? If he openly encourages the protesters, that could backfire as they would be labeled as tools of the US. I think being quiet publicly is the best way to go ...

He could say something like this...

Radio FARDA | President Bush: My message to the young in Iran is that someday your society will be free. And it will be a blessed time for you. My message to the women of Iran is that the women of America share your deep desire for children to grow up in a hopeful society and to live in peace...Well, I think the people of Iran are going to have to come to the conclusion that a free country is in their interest. We, of course, support freedom movements all around the world. We are supporting a freedom movement on the Iranian border, in Iraq. We are promoting and helping the Iraqis develop a free society. By the way, a free Iraq will help the Iranians seek the blessings of a free society. There's no doubt in my mind that the women will be leading freedom movements in Iran and elsewhere, and the role of the United States is to provide moral support and other support without undermining their cause.

THANK you, Free Reign!!

It seems some people have forgotten that not too long ago, we had a REAL President, with REAL values, and REAL courage.

The Iranian people are on their own in their fight for freedom with Obama in the WH, and this is a tragedy.

55 posted on 06/15/2009 11:52:27 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: hoosiermama

That sounds like something that happened in the uprising in 1999. There were students beaten and pushed out of windows. Wonder if they are referring to 1999 or if it’s happening again at Tehran University.


56 posted on 06/15/2009 11:58:53 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: FreeReign
Radio FARDA | President Bush: My message to the young in Iran is that someday your society will be free. And it will be a blessed time for you. My message to the women of Iran is that the women of America share your deep desire for children to grow up in a hopeful society and to live in peace...Well, I think the people of Iran are going to have to come to the conclusion that a free country is in their interest. We, of course, support freedom movements all around the world. We are supporting a freedom movement on the Iranian border, in Iraq. We are promoting and helping the Iraqis develop a free society. By the way, a free Iraq will help the Iranians seek the blessings of a free society. There's no doubt in my mind that the women will be leading freedom movements in Iran and elsewhere, and the role of the United States is to provide moral support and other support without undermining their cause.

It's worth noting that those laudable words of Bush were made at a time of civil calm in Iran. Whether he would make them now and appear to be fomenting revolution at a time when there is civil instability is another question.

Cheering from the sidelines while Iran's rulers ponder how to cope with this upheaval is simply inviting them to crack down hard.

57 posted on 06/15/2009 12:01:06 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: null and void
"My Anna lies over the ocean - my Anna lies over the sea - won’t some sail o’re that ocean - and bring back my anatomy?"

BWWWWHAAAAAA!!!
You're real good, pal.

Where you been?
McLame sure could've used a [decent] speech writer. LOL

58 posted on 06/15/2009 12:03:41 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: marshmallow
It is most likely because of those words that the freedom loving people of Iran held out the hope that they would be supported in their quest for freedom, and have the courage to fight for it right now.

President Bush believes in the freedom of oppressed people, and was always willing to speak up for and fight for it.

He may voice the sentiment in slightly different words, but the idea that he would not voice them at all is inconsistent with who he is and how he conducted himself throughout his eight years in office.

59 posted on 06/15/2009 12:06:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

In other words - Obama should be making statements right now supporting the rights of the Iranian people.


60 posted on 06/15/2009 12:08:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Phil V.
"The FAIRNESS DOCTRINE on steroids..."

Uh-huh, precisely Phil.
Totally run amok.

Then again didn't zerO say he was, what, "thrilled" over the election?
And I'll go so far as to say by extension, the results.

While the rest of America?
They *still* don't get-it.

61 posted on 06/15/2009 12:08:14 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Girlene
From Details of deadly Iran protest shooting vague, and reports election was stolen

.............."Pulling out two of the most interesting bits of twitter and bloggerati, here are two reports about the major developments of the day, first the shooting of protesters in Tehran's streets, from AFP:

One protestor was shot dead and several were wounded during a rally in Tehran on Monday, a local Iranian photographer told AFP.

The incident occurred in front of a local base of the Basij volunteer militia, which was set on fire, the photographer who declined to be identified said, adding that the dead man had been shot in the head.

Pictures of the incident which AFP saw showed armed men, wearing helmets and in civilian clothes, pointing guns at the crowds from the rooftop of the Basij base.

The photographer said that the dead man was killed by shots fired by these men from the rooftop.

An AFP correspondent at the rally also said that Iranian police had clashed with protestors and that crowds of people were seen fleeing.

Witnesses told the correspondent that the clashes erupted at the end of the rally when armed men dressed in plain clothes who did not appear to belong to the police force started shooting at people."..........
62 posted on 06/15/2009 12:09:10 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

DOn’t know, just copying the twitter and passing it on.


63 posted on 06/15/2009 12:09:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: ohioWfan
The people of the Middle East are not freedom loving. They may not like their current despots but they're not ready to whistle "Yankee Doodle" yet, either.

Hasn't Iraq taught us that, if it's taught us nothing else? Wasn't the removal of Saddam supposed to trigger a chorus of "hosannas" from the "freedom-loving" Iraqi people? It didn't quite work out that way, did it?

Iran would be no different. This is their fight, not ours.

64 posted on 06/15/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Girlene

Last night late there were reports of non-uniform wearing, arab speaking men among the crowds...., but with twitters it’s hard to confirm.


65 posted on 06/15/2009 12:12:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: ohioWfan

Obama is out pitching to the AMA his socialism which as of today is about a 60/40 it will be b*tch slapped in it’s current form. I suspect he will do nothing on Iran. He really is an incompetant sock puppet. he does’nt even know how to play the Washington game, his whole offense is the deep post. Too bad the Pubbies are stuck in the goalline defense right now.


66 posted on 06/15/2009 12:13:51 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: marshmallow

True, as sad as it sound.


67 posted on 06/15/2009 12:21:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: hoosiermama

The Iran regime has been using Arab militia for some time now. Their presence is nothing new.

President Obama, that odd combination of Neville Chamberlain and Joe Stalin, will do and say nothing that doesn’t help his agenda. His agenda is to have negotiations with the Tehran regime.


68 posted on 06/15/2009 12:23:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Great collection of pictures of the protests here:

Tehran is burning

They need as much media exposure as possible as the Iranian tyrants are shutting down as many outside contacts as possible.


69 posted on 06/15/2009 12:24:51 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: mojitojoe

“A preview of America’s next presidential election?
If that happened here, it would be a lot different. Americans have guns, lots of guns.”
And they have been buying up LOTS of ammo since the phony election in November. And if the mugabe thugs took shots at the American people, they would shoot back.


70 posted on 06/15/2009 12:24:59 PM PDT by Texas resident (Texan by birth and by choice.)
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To: epluribus_2

Bill Clinton was the same. He only cared about domestic policy because this is how you buy votes. Democrats in general abhor foreign policy and are too stupid to get it right anyways. Just look how 0bama and Hillary go around apologizing to foreigners

But Bill and Hillary Clinton and 0bama don’t mind getting on Air Force One and dropping in on foreign leaders. A road trip jazzes them up and makes them feel important


71 posted on 06/15/2009 12:27:52 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: Landru

I was busy pointing out that McCain isn’t a natural born citizen...


72 posted on 06/15/2009 12:29:31 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 147 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: marshmallow
I fundamentally disagree with you, marshmallow.

Why would people in the ME desire bondage if given the opportunity to be free? Are they inferior human beings? Did God not create them in His image, as He did us?

I believe you are fundamentally wrong about Iraq as well. Just because al-Qaeda and Iranian thugs interfered with the liberation of Iraq doesn't mean that the people themselves do not desire freedom. They do, and they love the freedom they now have because of the courage of our troops and their (former) Commander in Chief.

And no one said anything about "fighting." A simple statement supporting freedom is all Obama needs to do right now.

Of course, he prefers appeasing dictators to supporting freedom for the oppressed, so he won't show the courage President Bush would in the same situation.

73 posted on 06/15/2009 12:39:08 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: pburgh01
So true, pburgh01.

We have the opportunity of a lifetime to stand up against this "incompetant sock puppet" (perfect description), and I fear not enough will have the courage to stand up to him.

So far, there are about three......

74 posted on 06/15/2009 12:41:07 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Reagan is King
This is what happens under totalitarianism.

Preview for this country?

75 posted on 06/15/2009 12:43:36 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: counterpunch

Obama is a fraud who stands for nothing. An empty suit whose Rhetoric does not match his deeds and the real crime is that American Pravda state run media broadcasts praise and adoration for this hollow president and the hypnotized masses genuflect at his every word.

A real President Like George W. Bush would have taken the side of the People in Iran. Spoken out in their defense and offered aid and substance to the debate not just empty words.

They can say what they want about Bush but he was a man of his word not like the current resident of 1600 Penn ave.


76 posted on 06/15/2009 12:48:24 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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To: null and void

We should focus efforts on getting McLame ruled ineligible so he cant screw us with ineptitude again in 2012. He will probably go ballistic and finally out the Kenyan in the process giving us a two-fer.


77 posted on 06/15/2009 12:55:15 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Typical Liberal Response. Millions must die and the threat must be existential before we engage. Then as in the years 1941 - 1945 it all resides in commitment, courage and lots and lots of luck.

We may very well be witnessing the fall of Democracy in the world.


78 posted on 06/15/2009 12:59:22 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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To: counterpunch

“America needs a President again.”

You got that right! We’ve got some delusional kid who thinks he’a a philosopher-king.


79 posted on 06/15/2009 1:10:45 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: XLSweetTea

That is scary because it shows they are on the side of the state. They know police action may become necessary here when enough people have had enough of the Obama regime.


80 posted on 06/15/2009 1:15:56 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Typical_Whitey
A real President Like George W. Bush would have taken the side of the People in Iran. Spoken out in their defense and offered aid and substance to the debate not just empty words.

Ummm...I'm not so sure. He'd be keeping tabs on the situation, working behind the scenes where possible, but I don't think he'd be on national TV supporting this.

I recall some strong words of Bush's during a SOTU address to the effect that if the Iranian people stood up against their oppressors we'd support them. But that was the only time I recall him being so specific like that.

I never thought Bush/Cheney would leave office with the Iranian nuclear threat unopposed by America. But they did.

I'll agree fully that O-crapfull isn't a man of his word.

81 posted on 06/15/2009 1:30:02 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ( Pretender-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama....an arrogant embarrassment.)
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To: counterpunch

Yesterday he was taking credit for this ‘robust debate’.

Don’t worry -it will be Bush’s fault by week’s end!


82 posted on 06/15/2009 1:30:44 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: prairiebreeze
He'd be supporting the cause of freedom for the people of Iran, prairiebreeze. He wouldn't support the violence, but the violence doesn't seem to be being perpetrated by the protestors, but rather by the regime.

He would have made a statement already because one of the most important aspects of his vision for the ME was the freedom of its people from oppression.

Of that, there can be no doubt.

83 posted on 06/15/2009 1:39:39 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: MikeWUSAF
%%%%A preview of America’s next presidential election?%%%

Naah! The moonbats are already comparing this to the Florida 2000 recount. They praise the Iranians for being brave enough to fight back. For some folks there's no hope for curing their mental illness. But we give them an hour or so of cable time every day on MSNBC.

84 posted on 06/15/2009 1:44:49 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: dfwgator
What exactly do you want Obama to do? If he openly encourages the protesters, that could backfire as they would be labeled as tools of the US.
Exactly what I was thinking.
85 posted on 06/15/2009 1:45:48 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I’m sure Ahaminejad is going to give another speech to the MSM today claiming Iran is the worlds example of human rights and moral values. And their will be CNN and Amanpour acting as an extension of Irans state run news backing up what the midget Hitler says.


86 posted on 06/15/2009 1:50:58 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: prairiebreeze

The Only Reason that the Iranian Nuclear threat went Unopposed by Bush Admin was because of the Pressure from Democrats intent on making him look like an Imperalist. Iran and NK are axis of evil had Bush been allowed to have his way politically here at home neither would be a threat today.


87 posted on 06/15/2009 2:03:06 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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To: ohioWfan
President Bush believes in the freedom of oppressed people, and was always willing to speak up for and fight for it.

Sure did, just ask the people of Tibet.

Oh, wait.
88 posted on 06/15/2009 2:04:57 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Too bad Iranians are not allowed to own private weapons. This situation shows that an unarmed populace is virtually powerless against a ruthless government.

89 posted on 06/15/2009 2:04:58 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Scutter

I’m with you don’t really understand the posters point. Obama should take a stand and if it backfires on him SO WHAT. At least he would have taken a stand on principle and supported Freedom, Liberty and Democracy...

But I guess the other poster doesn’t realize that Barry is nothing more then a narcissistic totalitarian dictator.


90 posted on 06/15/2009 2:06:46 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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To: dfwgator

I can answer your question...

RESIGN THE PRESIDENCY BEFORE HE DOES FURTHER HARM TO THE USA.


91 posted on 06/15/2009 2:08:54 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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To: Scythian

No kidding. The guy just had a grueling one day trip to Chicago on AF-1, too.


92 posted on 06/15/2009 2:11:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: randomhero97
You mean because he went to the Olympics in China?

Isn't that a DU argument?

93 posted on 06/15/2009 2:12:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
I see, accuse me of being a DUer for not smoking that RNC hasheesh.

Dubya didn't really say too much about the plight of those truly oppressed people in fear of angering our loan shark.
94 posted on 06/15/2009 2:19:46 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

It’s a shame they didn’t rise up BEFORE zero became president.


95 posted on 06/15/2009 2:22:38 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: MikeWUSAF
A preview of America’s next presidential election?

Pretty much

96 posted on 06/15/2009 2:26:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Seems like time is slowly going to run out for Imadinnerjacket. The pity is that the Iranian nuclear program won’t slow down a bit, while with the “reformer” put in power, Israel will be completely unable to launch an attack, and Obama will do as Clinton-Bush before him did with North Korea: trust and aid them so they have time to make a bomb.


97 posted on 06/15/2009 2:44:46 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: null and void
"I was busy pointing out that McCain isn’t a natural born citizen..."

You'd have been perfect.

98 posted on 06/15/2009 2:54:02 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper; Landru; potlatch; devolve; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; FARS; nuconvert; ...
Hussein's buddy Bill Ayers had Daley's police army fall on him like a cube of bricks October 8-11, 1969.

Hussein is now voting present as instructed by his puppetmasters.

The whole world is watching--all the tyrants are in power.

This is Hussein's Kent State and he's playing Nixon--welcome to Bizarro World.


99 posted on 06/15/2009 3:00:18 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ohioWfan

American interference or comment which appears to support either side would be disastrous I think. There is still hostility in Iran for what is perceived as American interference in the 70s. Some that are supportive of this potential revolution or ambivalent could turn against a side favored by the US.

While the students may be hoping for support from the US, that support would be disastrous for them. This regime is not limited by law. Their thinking is that they will do what they need to do to squash this uprising. If it becomes a symbol of rebellion against the US, then that makes any action against the students appear justified. The US needs to stay out of this...completely.


100 posted on 06/15/2009 3:00:27 PM PDT by ga medic
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