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1 posted on 06/17/2009 9:31:51 PM PDT by FromLori
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americanintokyo


2 posted on 06/17/2009 9:33:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: FromLori

Case closed.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 9:34:38 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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obviously, there’s nothing to see here........... right...


5 posted on 06/17/2009 9:37:10 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: FromLori

This story just keeps getting better every day.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 9:38:53 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: FromLori

If they were counterfeit, that would be a crime, and they would not have been released.

Logical conclusion: They were the real deal, and the men were released no doubt with a little urging from the Japanese embassy there.


8 posted on 06/17/2009 9:40:25 PM PDT by djf (Man up!! Don't be a FReeloader!! Make a donation today!)
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To: FromLori

They went missing, eh? Just like our money, our future, our country. /pessimism


12 posted on 06/17/2009 9:48:11 PM PDT by PGalt
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LOL

Mr Phelps, your mission - if you decide to accept it......


23 posted on 06/17/2009 10:17:32 PM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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But nobody knows where the two men are

LOL you want to see real magic? start waving around billions of dollars. You can make pretty much anything disappear
27 posted on 06/17/2009 10:53:14 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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At first, I thought that the bonds were real, on the grounds that a fake $500 million bearer bond would be (I thought) impossible to unload. But I was corrected with a 2002 story (http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2002/10/07/daily40.html) showing that bonds in this denomination are forged.

So I now believe that they are fake. Which makes the release of the two men very mysterious, and causes me to think it was a Mafia operation.

I’ll point out that if this is a government operation, it is NOT an operation to quietly unload T-bills. Completely bypassing the issue that bearer bonds are not needed to quietly unload something, a government could have stuck them in a diplomatic “black bag”. If this is a government operation, the intent was for the men to get caught, possibly to make an anonmyous gift of several billion to the cash-strapped Italians.


28 posted on 06/17/2009 10:59:56 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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In the United States the sale of “bearer bonds” has been essentially outlawed since 1982.

Two reasons:

(1) They abet money laundering, because, unlike currency, just one piece of paper might have been worth millions of dollars.

(2) It was often very complicated to track sales and to tax interest payments.

In 2009, all US Treasury bearer bonds have matured, but apparently some have still not been redeemed.

The amount of unredeemed Treasury bearer bonds is not completely clear to me.

One financial website claims “less than $5 billion,” and Wikipedia claims “$100 billion.”

There's a web page at “Treasury Direct” that appears to state the amount is $100 million.

In any event, it seems likely that this huge amount of smuggled bearer bonds is counterfeit.

The scam usually works like this...

The con man offers to sell the bearer bonds for a fraction of their value because the “real owner” can't risk cashing them in because “he'll be arrested” or “assessed huge tax penalties” or some other nonsense.

When the buyers take the bonds to the US Treasury to cash them in, the Treasury just confiscates the fraudulent bonds and the buyer loses 100% of his investment.

29 posted on 06/17/2009 11:00:27 PM PDT by zeestephen
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All your bonds are belong to us!


30 posted on 06/17/2009 11:02:48 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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Japan holds over 600 Billion in US bonds. ...And Italian cops aren’t too hard to bribe.

I’ll bet $10 both of those guys are dead by now.


32 posted on 06/17/2009 11:09:29 PM PDT by Blue Collar Republican (3 fingers of Jim Beam in a dirty glass)
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To: FromLori
Did they just vanish ?

34 posted on 06/17/2009 11:41:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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35 posted on 06/17/2009 11:54:27 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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